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KAY - this is a positive thread. So, as the saying goes "if you don't have anything nice to say, please don't say anything at all". In the end though, thank you for the apology.

OMG, what a horrible thing to say Kay. Thayward, thank you for telling her how it is. My comment would not have been so nice. That’s alright. What comes around, goes around. You should never should another person or their situation. Anyway, Thayward, glad to hear that you did get your testing done!! I am happy for you. You really don’t need any more set backs. Hey slow!! Hey Whynotme!! What’s up Tammy?? You should be getting close to testing. Would that be over the weekend??? I am so excited for you!! Yes, my doggy is going good. They haven’t figured out what is wrong with her though, which is starting to make me mad. I have paid out over $500.00 already. UGH!! Other than that, what’s new ladies??? I am going to start my shopping this weekend. I am such a procrastinator. I will the majority done by Sunday though!! (Power shopping) LOL………..Baby dust to you all!!!

KAY-you are so ignorant. not all men think that they have to be the biological father in order to love a child. are you saying that couples who adopt cant love their child because they are not the parents? why would you even say something like that. you obviously have not been reading the whole thread because the ones who have husbands, their husbands were the ones who wanted to use a donor because they had a sperm problem. i am sorry that you dont have a man that is so loving and understanding that he would set his pride aside in order to have a baby. the reason that we dont go sleep around to get pregnant is because we love our husbands and the reason that our husbands want to use a donor is because they love us. anyway, it doesnt really matter because if my husband decided later that he didnt want to be a part of it then that is fine, i would raise the child myself and not think twice about it. a child is a child and just because it isnt biological doesnt mean that it would be loved any less. but thank you so much for your concern, and you are right you shouldnt have said that, it was rude and insensitive, and that is not what we are here to listen to. HEY girls how are ya'll doing today? THAY- let us know what the results are as soon as you find out. i totally agree they tell you to hurry and get there and then you have to wait on everything..lol..it is a waiting game that we play and we will all learn patience before it is over with. MONTIE- have fun shopping it can get hectic this time of year. i only have 2 more gifts to buy so i am proud of myself. but i am also upset at myself because i usually startmy shopping in aug and am done by nov so i am behind this year..lol TAMMY- when are you going to test? we are excited for you and wishing you a +. WHYNOT and EMAAN- how are you 2 doing? well take care all and good luck have a great day

Kay's message made me so mad, I just had to respond in case she scared any of you out there doing this about your husband's feelings about the baby. Kay, you have no idea what you will do unless you are faced with a situation like those of us here were- and I hope you never are. 6 years ago, I would have told you that there is no way I EVER would have taken this route. My husband and I tried for almost 2 years before we went to a doctor only to immediately find out his sperm count was 0- in other words no chance. He then went through a painful exploratory surgery because they thought there might be a blockage and our situation might be fixable. I had to be the one to tell him when he woke up from the surgery that they had not found anything. More testing from specimens from the surgery showed our chances were probably nil even with ICSI. 24 hours after getting the final results my husband was already suggesting a donor. He said that the baby would be a little piece of me and he didn't care if it wan't biologically his- he would love it with all his heart. We would still get to experience all the joys from the beginning, and would never have the fear that we would be promised a child only to have the parents change their mind. I was the one who resisted for a few days until I read a great book called "Helping the Stork" which I would strongly reccommend to anyone considering this route. We then started a new journey in which my husband was very involved. My husband wanted to feel a part things. We picked out the donor together, my husband made all the arrangements with the facility, my husband scheduled the doctors appointments, and my husband was by my side at every doctors appointment. We spent another almost two years (1 m/c a year into it) trying to have the baby we BOTH wanted so badly- the IUIs, the drugs, the monthly disappointments when I wasn't pregnant. We thought about adoption, along the way, but they could find nothing wrong with me and no reason I couldn't have a baby, and for personal reasons too lengthy to explain here, that is not the route we took. After almost 4 years of trying, I finally had a healthy pregnancy. WE now have a beautiful 10 month old little girl. My husband was there through the pregnancy and when she was born. My husband loves that child with all of his heart and she loves him. I adore watching the two of them together. Their faces light up when they look at each other. In fact, because he couldn't bear the thought of leaving her at a day care when I had to go back to work and it made more sense with our economic situtation, he currently is a stay at home dad and is loving every minute of it. I'm jealous. Sure, there are times when HE worries how SHE will feel about him when she finds out, and it is a little funny when someone tells him how much she looks like him (one person told him he "could never deny that one was his"- and it was all we could do not to completely bust out laughing), or remarks about the things she might get from his side of the family, and in a perfect would we wouldn't have been in this situation in the first place, but neither of us would trade our daughter for anything in the world. In fact, my husband often says that he is glad we went through everything he did, because if we had not, it would have been a different child, and he can't imagine any child more beautiful or wonderful than his precious little girl. Kay- there are more important things than biology. She is his daughter, and don't you dare say anything different. As for the rest of you, I wish you all success, happy pregnancies, and the same joy we now have.

Hi Ladies. I was so offended too by what Kay said. It doesn't even make sense. I don't know how anyone could say that they can't love a child that isn't biologically theirs! That is absurd!!!! IF I can't get pregant - I know adoption is my next step... and I KNOW I would love that child as much as any that has some of my DNA. I know all you gals with DHs are amazing! Don't ever listen to negativity like that! ANYWAY, no real news on my end. Just hoping everyone had a good day. Smiles and Babydust... T

Where is everyone today? Smiles and Babydust... T

Hey Gals... everyone must be having a busy weekend. I had my staff party last night - lots of fun. It was nice that I could have a few drinks! LOL! Anyway, I should get my ultrasound results tomorrow. Please think of me. Smiles and Babydust... T

Hi ladies. Sorry no postings, I have been so busy this weekend. Slow thanks for the O-kit advice. I have been doing that everyday now, (I had some left over). Still no positive. I am refusing to feel negative, although frustration is certainly present every morning when I pee. (Weird.) Also what a wonderful horoscope. That is very inspiring. Thay - good luck tomorrow! I will be keeping you in my thoughts and prayers. Montie - I am so glad to hear the doggy is doing better. To bad about the bill, but as they say there a more important things than money. I refuse to comment on the negative posting, as we have no room for negative energy. However you ladies all handled the comments with class. Four more days until I am officially at two weeks. I pray it is positive! I chat with you all soon! Babydust and bumps to all. - Tammy

TAMMY - WOW! Only 4 more days! I am so excited for you to get a BFP! I am sending positive thoughts to you girl! Thanks for your kind thoughts and words. Hope you are having a great day. Smiles and Babydust... T

Good morning ladies!! Sounds like everyone had a nice weekend. Tammy, have the faith!! You still have time, so hang in there. You are going to be our first ++ for the month of Dec. and then we are all going to follow!! KF – I just wanted to say thank you for your warm comments about your thread and about the ladies on it. Your story brought tears to my eyes!! I am glad you have a wonderful family and soon, we will all be joining you. Good morning Thayward and Slow. How are you?? Slow, you will be proud of me……..I got the majority of my shopping done over the weekend!! I am so relieved. I always stress about presents!! LOL…….Whynotme, how are you feeling these days??

hey girls. i just want to say first off that everyone handled the situation with kay with class. also i wanted to say that i wrote to the editor about her and they wrote me back saying that kay had alot of complaints on her and that she has been banned from the site. so i think that is really good. anyway i wish you girls the best and i hope that we get alot of +'s for the holidays. if i have it worked out right i should be having an iui around christmas eve..how cool is that..lol.. anyway i will let you girls go for now i have been real busy i had a christmas party sat, then i had to go get my sister and her boyfriend out of jail sunday and then dh's stepson called wanting to borrow some money so i have to wire him that in the morning..it has been really crazy around here..lol..i picked up the clomid this morning and a/f showed yesterday so i will be taking it soon and starting this cycle all over and hopefully i will get a + and so will all of you who are waiting to test. good luck all.

SLOW! I am so excited for you girl! That is awesome that you are trying again! Yahoo! MON - You're awesome! I have most of my shopping done - just a couple more to finish up. TAMMY - any news? WHYNOT - how are you? AS FOR ME, no news yet about the u/s. I am trying NOT to read into it too much. Hopefully I hear tomorrow. Smiles and Babydust... T

hey girls the doc just called a little while ago and told me not to worry about it being on a weekend or on the holiday because they would be there if they were needed no matter what day it is so that is really good. i start the clomid tomorrow and wed. i go for a follicle study thing and hten i go back next week afor another one and then they will tell me when to get the trigger and the iui so that is really good. i will talk to you all tomorrow. good luck all and take care.

Yahoo Slow! What wonderful news for you. I am happy for you! Smiles and Babydust... T

Good morning. Slow, I can’t express how happy I am for you!! I know just to be in the action of trying is such a wonderful feeling. I wish they would have put me back on the clomid. I am not sure I really like the femara. My u/s is Friday, so I guess we will see how many follicles I have then. I am thinking that if all goes like last month, my trigger will be Saturday with my IUI on Monday. That means we will know around New Years’!! Thayward, I am prayer for you sweetie. Please let us know once you hear something. Tammy, where are you??? Whynotme, where are you??? Slow….sorry to hear about your sister and her boyfriend. I hope it was just minor stuff. We bailed my uncle out the Monday after Thanksgiving. UGH. Like we need this stuff!! LOL….Ta, ta for now!!

MONTIE-that is so good. it looks like me are you will be pretty close together with testing. i hope that everything works out for us all. i go in for ultrasound on thursday morning so that is good..good luck to all of you have a great day ladies.