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Hi girls...feeling a bit better today..don't think that the pain was from O'ing.. I think I caught some stomach bug..was throwing up for a couple hours and slept for most of the day.. daughter is sick too..had temp of 102.3 she is doing a bit better today.. darn stomach! mild stomach cramps today..so more just doing nothing.. that's ok ..would like to get better.. Happy New Year!! hope that everyone enjoys tonight.. my night will be very relaxing.. anyway..no hubby and I did not do the BD as I was too sick..I think that pain I got was a cyst.. I should have O around the 25th or earlier..not sure if I did this month.. waiting on results from blood test and US.. anyway..sorry I am going on and on.. have a great night/day and Happy New Year!! ~Baby Dust~

Happy New Year!! How is everyone today? I got to sleep in so that made me happy.. feeling better today..I am not to sure if I O this month? Can't wait for my dr's office to get the results.. (for them to get back from holidays) The waiting game sucks! How did everyone spend last night? Hubby, daughter and I all stayed at home .. watched movies.. ate chips and just had a great time.. :o) Did not want to go out during a new moon anyway..lol plus recovery from being sick.. well off to a party today.. so talk to you ladies later. *~Baby Dust~*

Hellooooooooo?? Hope you ladies are doing good.. I am having one of those days... none of the labs are open so the clinic could not get my results! So I have no idea if the O happend or what the US says.. I don't like this waiting game... uuuhhhhgggg!! Hope you have a lovely day! ~Dust~

hey, HAPPY NEW YEAR! so did anyone make any new years resolutions yet? mine is to get back in shape....i dont want to lose any weight, because i feel i'm at my ideal size (i'm 145 lbs), but i really want to get toned again (and i want to be able to climb up stairs w/o getting out of breath! :). sorry i didn't write as i only have my comp at work right now. i'm hoping i will have a comp at home here pretty soon though. i just have a few bills i need to pay off and then i'm going to get one. new year's was good. we went to a friends house and had a good time. yesterday was horrible though...i got food poisoning and i'm still feeling the after affects today. <<<sigh>>> i'm glad your new year was good Holly...it's great to just veg and hang out with the family! so did you get your results today? i have to go and get blood work done today, if not tomorrow, to find out what causes me to get food poisoning so often. i just hope my dr can figure out what causes me to get it so i can get the problem fixed already. i mean all i ate yesterday was a couple of chocolate donuts and within in an hour i was so sick! i just dont like that i feel so drained of energy afterwards. also i dont want to have this condition while pregnant because i dont know how it could affect the baby...so i think i'm going to postpone baby making for a month or 2 until my dr diagnose's me and tells me what i can do. it kind of makes me upset to have to postpone it, but like i said i dont want my condition to negatively affect my child-you know? so i'll have to wait and see i guess. well i hope you are doing good and i really hope that this year is better for us all! i will drop in later...*~*BABY DUST*~*

Grrrrrrrr 3.3 Progesterone level!! Getting so sick of this! I will be back later..

No O this month according to the dr's office.. glad I wasted money on a pill that did not work this month..I give up.

NO! you can not give up-i wont allow it! holly, you just have to keep your head up. i know it is so frustrating for you to go through this as long as you have, but all of your hard efforts will pay off one day. please try to see another doctor for a second or third or fourth opinion if you have to. if this is something that you want with all of your heart (and i know you do) you have to go at it with all you have and/or all the doctors have. just remember that she/he is not the only dr out there and maybe a different dr can help you in the way that your current dr cant. i was recently looking up acupuncture and infertility and it seems to have a really good success rate. try different things.....you never know what can help. is clomid the only med you have tried so far? do you take your BBT's? do you use opk's? try anything and eveything because you never know what might help. as soon as i figure out what's going on with my stomach problems i am going to try acupuncture to see if maybe it helps me. i know i haven't suffered from infertility as long as you have, but i do understand what you're going through. please dont give up though, i really enjoy having you here to talk to and i would truly miss you if you left!

Dee.. I just feel so frustrated right now.. 8yrs of trying and everyone else having babies so easily just gets frustrating and upsetting. I am trying not to forget that I have a wonderful family already but this is part of something in my life that is missing. I personally think that I O on the friday 2 days after the blood test as I had mild pains ..but then got really sick.. (food poisoning) I have not been ale to get opk's as I don't have a huge chunk of money to toss down for one.. (hubby says won't fit in budget right now) as they are about $50 and up..even my pills did not cost that much.. I charted in the past.. have not done in a while though. Think I will get a second opinion.. this is too much stress!! acupuncture sounds like a good idea.. I pass out with too many needles though..lol Clomid is the only med I have tried as I am so sensitive to anything..but going back to the fertility specialist in middle of January. Let me know if you find anything about your stomach.. My stomach has been causing me problems for months now.. getting tests for ulcers done in the next couple weeks. I know how that can be stressful.. hope you figure out what is wrong. .. Thank you for listening .. I really appreciate it.. back tomorrow.. ~Baby Dust~

hey girls im back. i had a fantasitc new year we wnet into the cabin on the lake with our friends. theres lots iof snow so we went on ski doos.....so muc fun. we brought in firewroks and rang in the new year with a party. sorry i havent been by but i was gone from the 30th to the 2nd. fun is over now its back to reality and work. i have the day off so i am taking down decorations and cleaning!!! reallly hate it. i could wait to get back to check in with you guys. i thought that one of you would get a bfp when i was gone. HOLLY hang in there you have to keep trying and dont give up. like dee said try other options try different drs. i know ttc is frustating..... i cant even imagine how frustrating it must be to ttc and 8 years with no baby. just keep trying and keepe you head up. DEE food poisoning sucks. i got it once from turkey ansd i was sooo sick. i cant imagione why someone would get it so often. i read that it takes place 6-8hours after you eat something that is poorly prepared or undercooked or has bacteria in it. thats what happened to be i ate the turkey and 6 hours latter i thought i was going to die. i hope you get it figured out and get better soon. i must go clean uo the house!!! talk to you sooon. baby dust to all./

Hi Alycia, I am trying not to give up..it is just really tough. Like I mentioned before, I remember that I have an
awesome, beautiful, smart 9yr old daughter and a wonderful husband. I sometimes feel incomplete.. I was
wondering if it was a baby phase for me..but I don't think so.. I really believe that we are supposed to have
another child in our life. but wonder if this something that is supposed to happen (as everything happens for
a reason) Just sooo depressing being told I did not O.. but I think they are wrong..So.. going to keep on
trying.. I am really sure that I O on the friday.. I think that it was not on the schedule that the dr's office thought
as the pills were a different dose than before. What do you think? Anyway.. I really hope that it was not food
poisoning.. I too have had it twice..omg I ended up in the hospital it was so bad.. I am thinking that maybe
that is what caused me to be sick on the friday.. I tried tofu for the first time and I was the only one who ate it ..
and man was I sick... So I won't eat at KFC or Edo Japan due to their sucky knowledge on how to cook
food.. Hope you are feeling better today. Have fun cleaning today Alycia.. I wish I was at home but I am back
to work today..uhhhggg! We have one of our staff members who quit so that makes my job a bit more
stressful. I would rather be at home with my family ... spending time with them before hubby starts school and
daughter goes back to school. Well.. I should get back to work.. check with you ladies later on .. Have a great
day! *~Baby Dust~*

hey girls! how are you feeling today Holly? good, i hope. i know it has been a very long road, but like i said try different approaches because the worst that could happen is you wont get pg. that's how i feel about this now. if my dr says i'm fine, but i'm not getting pg, then maybe i need to see a different kind of dr and just try something different-you know. i was reading into Chinese medicine and how they have specialists who do eastern and western medicine that can help to get you pg. my boss (the one that just found out she's pg) and i were discussing how we dont like that they make medicine in mass production now (like clomid) and dont take time to mix the chemicals just right for you like they used to in the early 1900's, they just put the same amount into each pill to save time and money. and now that so many people need medications they put the same amount of chemicals in all of them instead of mixing the chemicals to suit each individual person and their needs, so that's what these eastern and western practitioners do is mix chemicals/herbs specifically for your needs, which makes more sense. some will give you a diet to go by (not that they put you on a diet they just tell you what foods you need more of in your diet), and they'll make medicine for you and some will even suggest you see an acupuncturist or even a massage therapist. they just take a more natural (and i think a more relaxing) appraoch to it. i wouldn't mind working in a hospital, but being on the other end (being the patient) i dont really like as much, which is why i like the more natural approach that they offer. and since you seem to have a low tolerance for medication, they could probably make you something that wont cause you to get sick. what ever you decide to do, i just hope it gives you that BFP! hey Alycia, how have you been? it sounds like your New Year's was great! what a nice vacation. yeah, it sux to be back in the real world. i have so much cleaning to do since i didn't really get anything done last weekend. and unfortunately neither of us got a bfp. what about you though...any bfp or is it still to early? as far as my food poisoning episodes go, i think it has something to do with what my aunt had when she was a little girl. she had half of her small intestines removed at the age of 9 because they had rotted away due to a bacterial infection or something...so i'm thinking i might have inherited it from her. she said my symptoms sound very similar to hers, but i guess i'll find out soon. it just sux because i get it about twice a month and i get sick w/in a half hour of eating something, i break out in a really bad sweat and am sick for about 12-15 hours...it's really draining. anyways, i wanted to ask if either of you have had an hsg done? i wanted to do that to make sure that my tubes aren't blocked or something, but was wondering if it was painful and what i should expect? before i move on to anything else i wanted to make sure that i'm all clear down in that department. but for now i'm on cd 18 and waiting to start my addiction of taking hpt's soon. like i said though, i'm not really trying until i get the results back because it would suck to have to go through being sick and be pregnant and i dont know how it could affect a baby. but i definitely wouldn't be upset if i got a bfp! :o) well i'll talk to you both later...unfortunately i have to get back to work. *~*BABY DUST*~*

Sorry.. I will read the posts when I get home later.. I am having one of those days..omg I feel depressed and numb.. and very tired! I had nightmares last night and just not in a great mood today.. anyway... I will read your post when I get home Dee.. Hope everyone is haveing a good day ~Baby Dust~

sorry you're not feeling good. go home and light a bunch of candles and put them in your bathroom, start a hot bath, turn out the lights, and enjoy it. hopefully that will help you at least have a good night and a restful sleep...i know that helps me anyways! my mom got me a set of aromatherapy bath oils and whenever i have a bad day i take a bath and use one of those...they really help me to relax. also, if you can, try to talk your dh into giving you a back massage-they help to make a bad day better too. i hope you have a goodnight and at least have a good friday. i'll talk to you more tomorrow.

Hi, I just read a few of your posts and when u mentioned alternative medicine, like acupuncture it caught my eye. I am finishing my 3rd month of acupuncture and it has helped me more than clomid and progesterone. I take 1500mg metformin and tried one cycle of clomid, which didn't do much. I have been working with a wonderful acupuncturist who gives me a lot of hope. I just found out that I did ovulate this month. Temps are staying high and feel tired. I test Jan 11th and if I get a BFP, then I owe it all to acupuncture and chinese herbs, just a thought.

welcome, and thank you for posting jcr! Holly has been trying to conceive for over 8 years and has tried clomid twice, but had very bad side effects from it causing her to go to the ER. i was trying to tell her about Chinese medicine and acupuncture to give her a more relaxing and less painful alternative. please let us know if you get that BFP, because it would be really inspiring to know someone who has taken meds w/o getting a bfp ant then getting one from doing acupuncture. i was reading on another post last night (i forget the name), but 2 of the girls had gotten pg last month after doing several acupucture treatments and it really has inspired me to want to do it. again, thank you for posting and let us know if you get that bfp because your signs sound really promising! good luck! Goodmorning Holly and Alycia, happy Friday! :o) how are you both doing this morning? good, i hope. i'm so glad the weekend is almost here...it's been a very long week for me. well i was just popping in to see how everyone is doing...i'll drop back in later though. *~*baby dust*~*

Hi Dee and Alycia and welcome JCR.. I am feeling a bit better today.. I think it is because I had
such a bad sleep the night before.. hubby gave a good massage so that helped..thanks. I think it is
also due to not wanting to be at work.. one of the secretaries here quit so I am a little stressed out. I
like the idea of the natural approach.. I was brought up with natural ways.. herbs and vitamins and
reflexology etc... The acupuncture may help though.. but I don't want to pass out..lol needles make
me woozy! lol Such interesting facts on the clomid about how it mass produced.. that would make
allot of sense.. I don't think that they put that much care and attention into the medications
anymore.. I really have never been a medication person.. I have been reading that book about what
they don't tell you about the medications and about pharmaceutical companies..some of that stuff I
already know..working in the health industry. I am totally in the wrong job..lol the dr's here believe in
medication alone! no natural stuff for them.. and here I am the complete oposite...lol I think if you
need the meds and they work for you and if alternative care works too then both should be used..
otherwise try the natural way. I hope to get that BFP soon.. I am on cd32 and I still don't have AF..
weird..back to my old system..lol I have had an HSG test done before and everything came back
good.. a bit of a painful test..actually more like getting cramps from AF but worth getting done if you
have not had that test done. ..I have already started my addiction to HPT's gone through 2 and
both were negative.. uhhhggg.. oh well.. maybe it is all the stress.. I hope that you find out what is
going on with your stomach Dee.. crossing fingers for you that it is nothing serious. JCR.. thanks for
your input.. glad to hear that the acupuncture is working for you so far.. I hope you get that BFP.. let
us know what happens.. crossing fingers for you... I need to find something that works.. 8yrs is a
long time (not including the eptopic I had in 2001).. Thanks Dee.. I really would like to find a more
relaxing less painful alternative.. thanks for looking out for me.. I appreciate that. We all could use
some inspiration :o) Happy Friday to you too and to Alycia!! I will be back later.. *~Baby Dust~*