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CC, have you tried an opk? Maybe you are ovulating early??? I'd bd just for kicks too and who knows. I also had some cm, so I opk'd and got NO lines on the test what does that mean? Maybe I've just peed on one too many sticks and that's it!! Lori and Tracy have you tried the nicoREtte gum??0 My sister in Law used it and it really helped her. She used to smoke a pack and a half a day? Maybe look into it? Sorry if there are any errors in this, Ryley is helping me. Lynn, I think the femara will work fine for you! I hope you breeze through with it like I did. I always worry if there are no side effects if it works, but I guess that doesn't mean anything. Anyways...gotta run. Big hugs and Bellyrubs!

Jcr- I have tried the gum and I'll tell you, I hate the sensation it puts in the back of your throat. I like using the patch, but here is why I won't use it right now. I was afraid to wear it during the TWW, because I was afraid straight nicotine would kill my possible child/ and ruin implantation, then I got AF and didn't want a migraine (that's when they usually come), then I started the clomid (which gives me slight migrainish headaches) and that is where I am today. My retarded thinking is that smoking would be less harmful than the patch, but I haven't seemed to find a time in the last month when I felt comfortable about feeding straight nicotine into my body. I know that sounds goofy. Today I have only had 6 cigarettes and will probably finish the day at 7 or 8. I have been strategic about the times I decide not to have one, so that I don't get all moody. I am off from work tomorrow, so we will see how much will-power I have then. The clomid is making me feel like crap. Mostly at night, I feel gross, like I want to crawl out of my own skin and I get weird headache pains. I know it will be worth it, but I hate the way it makes me feel. Over-all it's not too bad, but bad enough for me not to want to have to go through it again. Did you guys feel this way?

EMM-I hope the answers you get are good ones. I dont think they give men shots, etc, but I do know that they can take vitamins etc to help improve certain aspects of the sperm. Through that whole process w/ my dh I learned that the sperm they are testing now, is 3 months old per say. So if he is giving a sample now, its sperm that were made in October, or something like that. So if he was sick, under extreme stress, etc, during that time, it will show in the sample. I know I am not working it right or explaining it right, but I hope I have most of it accurate and you get what I am saying. I was told this is why if the sample comes back w/ any abnormalities, they like to test it again a month from the 1st time, like my dh had to do. Thanks jcr for your thought. I dont have any other OPK's other then the ones I use for my monitor, and I dont know how to read them w/o the help of my monitor, and it wont start testing me until tomorrow. Usually I skip day 9 and not test, but I guess I will know tomorrow morning. Maybe its just one of those things. Maybe we both just have cm, your on a diff drug and I am not on anything so maybe thats why. Tracy on the Clomid I never felt good. The headaches and hot flashes were my biggest complaint. I am a sissy, after 3 months, I was done w/ it all too and didnt want to take it anymore. Of course I would and will do anything but I hope I dont have to go back to it when I see the RE. Going to watch American Idol. I know I am not in the main age demographic but dh and I just started watching last year so its still a new show for us and we love it! Have a good night everyone!

They didn't tell us much about it. Just to make sure he had intercourse today, and then not any until his appointment. Thanks for the info.

Tracy, I know nothing about the patch or the gum?! But the way you are doing it is much smarter I think. Good for you! I am sorry the clomid makes you feel so yucky. I had hot flashes and was really moody on it. I have been great with the femara, so I am hoping it will be my wonder drug. Lynn, did you get your femara today? Lori, good job on cutting back on the cigarettes. Have a good night, big hugs and bellyrubs.

okay....congrats to you girls cutting your smokes. CC- insurance is a scam and i wish people would realize we need certain things and it should be the doctor treating us making the calls not some idiot behind a desk. Well..drove an hour to get femara and an hour back home. RE office called meds into wrong Wal-Greens. UGH!!!! No I am not doing an IUI this month. I dont think anyway. hmm, need to ask. I need to call RE tomorrow to make appointment for ultrasound. I am going in on either the 25th or 26th to see if i responded to the femara. I am willing to give this shot. If nothing by March...back to injectables and we take our chances. If I put any meds along with an IUI, my insurance will not cover anything right now. I am calling tomorrow to dispute this and see what I can do. It is late and I am getting tired.

Woah!!!! I just had a crying spell. Just so you know, I don't cry often, so it has freaked me out. I was crying because I've been thinking so much about age, dying etc... my cat walked into the bathroom, and it crossed my mind that even he is going to die. I thought of my grandpa, also that my mom will be in her 80's (God willing) when my child is in their 20's. I hate that. I want my children to be able to spend years with their grandma, so they remember her. I have to go, I'm crying worse. Hormones Suck!!!!!!

Ok, so I had a momentary lapse in sanity last night. Hope you guys are doing better than I am. I am being thrown for a GIANT loop! Just call me Loopy......

Good morning everyone...Tracy, I hope you have a better day today. My Dad was 45 when I was born, so he is already almost 80. Talk about stress. Since my dh is going to be 39 in August, I feel like my child will be living my life over in that aspect. Lynn, insurance really is a scam, and thats coming from someone who has made their living working w/ insurance companies everyday for years (I am talking to one right now!) Who do you have ? They vary from state to state, but there are many who are country wide. Sorry about your femara fiasco, it really is sooo frustrating. It sounds like you did eventually get it though last night ? Is the femara like Clomid where you take it certain days, or can you take it anytime in the beginning of your cycle ? Oh-I am not O'ing early. I peed on a stick this morning and I am not close to O, so the cm must be a release since I am drug free. Its the only thing I can think of.

Hi everybody!! Tracy - I am sorry to hear that clomid is helping your hormones to kick your a** this cycle. This seems to be my worst month on it too. Lynn and CC - I agree with both of you about the insurance. I was talking to DH about it last night and he said everyone at work is squawking about this new insurance too. They are also saying that they are not getting the coverage that they were promised with the switch over, due to the new contract. Nothing was suppose to change except the carrier. What a LIE!! I'm trying to get answers as to what exactly is covered so that I can plan what our next step will be with all of this. It's like pulling teeth. We have had Anthem before and that is who we are back to. They have always been "difficult" to deal with.

How about we start a new thread? This one is getting loooong.

Lori, Anthem is a nightmare. I deal w/ them or try to most weeks. My best girlfriend just switched to them mid pregnancy and is having a really hard time too. I have spent hours on the phone trying to help her in the last few months. Its my job and I still get incredibly confused in the web and maze of their denials, contracts, etc. I feel sorry for a lot of people, if you arent on top of this stuff it tends to get out of control quickly and its hard for a lot of people to understand, and play by their rules. I feel for you and Lynn.

Ditto w/ the new thread..I was just thinking the same this morning, its a pain to scroll down to the bottom. Who wants the honor of starting the new thread w/ a new name ?

CC - why don't you go ahead and start the new thread. Maybe if someone else starts it we will have better luck. ; )

I agree that a new threat is a great idea. Let us know what it will be called!

Did we begin a new thread? My problem is I forget what I read by the time I go back to the top. I guess my issue with insurance is our cycle runs July 1st to June 30th. I took follistim + IUI in August. Everything was covered except for the IUI itself. Now here it is in the middle of our fiscal year and nothing if covered if I do another IUI. WHY???? My understanding is clomid is like femara but doctors have different protocols. SOme do 3-7 some do 4-8. I am doing 4-8 because they were closed on cd3. I am going on Jan. 26th at 845am for ultrasound to see if I am responding to the drug. Well...someone take the leap and begin a thread.