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hi, kot, i took Met only and after 8 months i got my BFP. please check into tkaing both drugs together. So, did the doctor ever call? i hope you get some answers. Mani, always welcome and do not worry about whining. Mega, nice to have you back. let us know when you begin your FET. cmelissa, nice follie check adn i am sure you will have some good ones growing. are you going to freeze any? eveyone...thanks on the well wishes. i was pleasantly shocked seeing in the back of my head i was prepared for a boy. dh is excited and has bought 2 outfits...ugh. well, i have a sinus infection, fever and not sleeping since i cannot breath so i am going to try and rest. talk to you tomorrow.

Lynn, I hope that you are feeling better soon! Well, the nurse called and I have to go in for and u/s and bloodwork in the morning. they don't understand why af hasn't shown up yet. They said that if my lining is thin and my bloodwork is at baseline then i can start gonal on Friday!! Yay!! Well, I'm trying not to get my hopes up just yet.

So, I'm glad they finally called you back. Good luck Friday, hopefully you'll be good to go on the Gonal F start date. I've got my fingers' crossed for you, you've waited too long as it is...Thanks. I'm happy for them, bummed for me though. The funny thing about that couple though, is she is really fertile, but when she got pg with her 1st kid (an adorable ds who is 10 now), she was young, not worrying about getting pg b/c her dr had told her she couldn't have kids. Well that's 3 times he's been wrong now. Me, I totally didn't expect issues. Never can tell huh? It's a nice image to picture being pg with your friend, bumping bellies, but hopefully her kids and yours can still end up being close in age. That's what I'm pulling for with mine. Mani--Welcome. We're glad you're joining us. So sorry about the BFN. I don't know why they don't want you to start again immediately on a new cycle, maybe they just think your ovaries need a rest. Or perhaps they're afraid you may have a residual cyst. Clinics vary so much on their ways of doing things, still amazes me. Lynn--Yikes.Sorry you're sick. Feel better soon. I'm so glad you got your "secret" wish gender wise. A baby girl, how fun she'll be to shop for. Sounds like your DH is getting into it. I'm technically already in my FET cycle, but I really don't know the dates involved yet. Grrr. I'm calling today to ask when she mailed my calender and also make an appt. for my failed cycle consult so I can hear what went wrong. Which I bet they'll just say they have no idea why. Cmelissa--You're off to a great start. You'll end up with more than you have now though, invariblyl Yeah, you'll get lots of good drugs ER day. :) Coming up soon, I'm so excited for you. Thanks. Glad I was missed.

Well, my doctors appointment sucked! My cyst has grown and I have to stop treatment. I have tried to take provera and it won't bring on a period and so I am going to have to go on BCPs to bring on a period and just wait for my cyst to disappear. It saddens me so much to think that I have never ovulated in the 14 months the I've been TTC and the doctors can't do anything about this recurring cyst. I feel so desperate and hopeless and I don't know if I am going to be able to pull through this time. Please pray for me...my prayers don't seem to be doing quite enough. I wish you all the best.

So, can i ask a question? i never ovulated on my own until i began Metformin. i was diagnosed with PCOS and no one really treated it until i had my ectopic last Sept. Have they checked you for PCOS? i only ovulated while on follistim and giving myself HCG shots which medically forces your body to O. just some questions to maybe ask if you have not already. Mega, did you get a call back about your calendar? i did not know if you had to take anytime of drugs to prepare to transfer. do you? cmelissa, you go again tomorrow??? keep us posted. Mani, any news are your front? Carole, you should be heading into the home stretch of your 2ww...what is happening? well, i slept like a log last night (except to pee) and was tired all day. my antibiotic nust be getting the best of me. well, going to attempt to spend some time with dh. talk to you all tomorrow.

I don't know if I have PCOS...I only ever seem to get one cyst at a time. They have done tons of bloodwork and I have never heard the docs say anything about pcos. What is metformin?

Andrea (aka. SO), Metformin is a drug actually prescribe to diabetics. My RE said there was research to support it being given to PCOS patients to increase natural ovulation. I began seeing a RE since i had AF's once every 50+ days. I began with clomid(8cycles)....did not work. i did 1 round of injections+ HCG shot with an IUI and got BFP but ended in ectopic. at my post-op, RE asked me to begin Metformin (Oct. 6, 2006) which i did. took bcp in Nov and Dec. i then did femera+HCG shots(3x)...did not work. 1 more round of injections+HCG...did not work. in May decided i was done had NOTHING in my system but metformin and got BFP. I continued to take it to 12wks (research also shows decrease miscarriage risk in PCOS patients) and so far so good. to me it is worth asking about. i might first probe about your chances of having PCOS and then ask about Metformin. i will say you slowly work up to full dose as it changes your digestive track. i hope this helps.

Hi Girls! I know I haven't made a proper post in a while. These last 2 weeks have been a whirlwind for me. First of all, CONGRATS LYNN on the BABY GIRL! My guess was right!! Little girls are great! I got a call on Monday to come to Farifax for an interview for a higher position. I got offered the job yesterday. I am so excited, more money and level up for me. So this week has been crazy!! My normal work has been busy too. AND........................................today I tested and got a BFP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My temps have been all over the board and I didn't know what to think, this morning I am 13dpo and I took the test and acutally sat there and refused to look at it. I finally took a peek and just starting sobbing and thanking God for this miracle. It has been a long road since my m/c last August and I was going to order my meds today too. I am praying this one sticks, already went for beta and progesterone check. I am sooo glad I was taking the suppositories on my own during the 2WW. I also took a bunch of viatmins as well. I hope that I have not upset any of you. MEGA: I know you are still reeling from your cycle and I want you to know that I think of you everyday and pray everyday that your are blessed. MELISSA: I am thinking about you as well and hoping this ivf cycle is your miracle. KOTKOT, SO, MANI, so nice to meet you and have you here. We are a great group of women and a great support. I will write more when I know more. This seems too unreal. I almost stuck that test in my purse so I could look at it all day long, but I refrained. I AM, however going to buy more tests in a minute. Thanks for all the support you guys. You have no idea!!!

Yay!!!!!!! Yay!!!!!! Yay!!!!!!!!! Carole--Congrats on the BFP. So exciting. And on a natural cycle too. I'm so happy for you. Wonderful news. And while I'm congratulating you, congrats on the new job, promotion. What a wonderful week you're having. Now you & your DH have yet more reasons to celebrate. I hope & pray this bean sticks around. Have you made a beta appt. yet? It's nice to have more good news on this thread. Cmelissa I hope & pray will be our next BFP. So--I'm sorry for what you're going through. The BCPs will help though in killing the cyst. I agree wholehartedly with Lynn on the possible PCOS connection. Granted lots of times PCOS women also have polycystic ovaries (like me) but not always. Have you had a chem panel done recently--where they takes tons of blood & check lipids, e2, FSH, lh, thyroid, insulin levels and zillions of other things. If not, might be a good idea. Seems to be the best way/sometimes only way to diagnose PCOS. You are in my thoughts & prayers. It's not easy, it completely sucks that this whole process has been 1 step forward & 3 steps back for you. You have my empathy for that definitely. But you can and WILL make it through this. Cry, get angy, whatever, but you're strong and will survive. Eyes on the prize, Angela. Remember that always. There's a native American figure, Kokopelli, he's believed to be a fertility figure. I have by my computer at work a xeroxed copy of Kokopelli with the words "Eyes on the Prize" underneath. I glance at it 100's of times a day, esp. recently. But to me, that's the crux of it. The baby is the prize, and oh so worth this crap, all this pain. Also, have you had a laporoscopy done? That might be worth checking into to, more complete dx. Something is going on, obviously, but there's no reason to think it's not fixable. Hang in there. Lynn--Hope you're feeling better today. Well ladies, the nurse faxed over my calender today. There's been a car blocking my mailbox for 3 days and I think the post office has stopped delivering our mail. I'm having DH go by the PO tomorrow to pick up the mail so they'll yell at him this time not me. They don't care that the car belongs to my neighbors who don't seem to care about us getting our mail on time. On going situation. I so want to move!!! Anyway, my frozen tx will be Oct. 27th. They'll thaw 3 embies the day before. Lynn, I'll be on some meds (I'm not doing a natural FET, with my PCOS anyway I wouldn't make a good candidate for that) but not stims or anything. I start Lupron tomorrow, 20 units a day for 24 days. I'll also be slapping on estrogen patches too. Plus the PIO shots, antibiotics, the steroid (Medrol) etc. They'll be doing AH on my embies as well this time, b/c I guess the shells get harded after freezing. Intresting. That's supposed to help with implantation. It also increases id. twining rates too, just like ICSI does too. So we'll see. Have a great weekend ladies. Carole, I'm so happy for you. That's sweet of you to worry about it upsetting us. No, not at all. I'm just happy for you.

Congrats Carole!! I'm so happy for you! Thanks for the encouragement Mega! Sorry to be so short on here but I was wondering if you ladies could share your lupron experiences? I go for another u/s in 2 weeks and if my cyst is still there then I have to start taking Lupron. I don't really know anything about it and the research that I am finding seems to be directed to endometriosis (which I don't think that I have). Any info would be great!

well carole it is so nice to have someone with BFP!!!!! many cong's and wish you a very safe journey... we are really happy for you.
about me nothing's to report..... my friend's fiance is a doctor, he works in USA and i asked him to order me the ovulex.. i just want to give it a try as i will be off medication the upcoming month. wish you all best of luck...

Carole.....YEAH!!!!! I just knew things would work out. each time we have one more we will get to the end and everyone here will have their BFP. are you planning on sharing with Campbell now or waiting until 12 wks. i completely understand with a m/c in your past. also, congrats on the promotion!!! lots of celebrating in your house. cmelissa, how is the follies going/growing? keep us posted. is your MIL still with you and dh? how are things there? Mega, wow, less than a month. keep us posted and i am sending your name ot my roommate form college. her prayer group prays for us who are struggling with infertility. cmelissa, i will send yours also. So, please keep us posted on your situation. i hope some of my info helped. Kot, let us know how the meds go. i am feeling okay but tired. i know it is the meds and all so not much excitement this weekend in our house. have a good one and i will check in later.

mega.. you will be in my mind and thoughts till October 27th, i wish this cycle is gonna be the one. you eventually deserves this so much and have proven to be a very strong brave woman who inspires us all. i wish you all the luck. carole and Lyne, you are the spark of hope that will keep us struggling so hard. and for you Soimpatient, keep us on track for the cysts, i suggest asking your doctor about the Laproscopy if being an option till the moment. it is just the direct way to tell what is going on with your babymaking machine... (you can have a documented video tape of that:) me myself, i went for the doctor appointment today and my lap. is schedualed Wednesday's morning, i would propably leave the hospital the same day if every thing goes smoothly. i am really in apanic and iam not so much sure i want to go under knife!!!! this is the first time on my life !!! anyways, as you said mega it worths the pain.i will ask my doctor for another month after the lap. to be off medication meanwhile i will take the ovules.... i have really high expectations on ovulex i have done lots of research and i think iam totally convinced that i will give it atry .
anyway at november, my doctor told me that we will start doing the injections (he didnt mention the type yet) and he informed me that since my DH is super normal ( it hurts to know that you are the one!!!!) he might no do IVI !!! well , i hope so since i really hate complicated procedures.
anyway girls, i will keep you in touch with my Lap. results!!! and mega if you have any Lap. advices just pass it here!!!! lots of love for you all and baby dust.

Kot, i had a LAP Sept. 2005 to removed my ectopic and lost my tube. i only had 4 tiny incisions which was amazing. one point of advice....no matter how much it hurts, keep walking around after the procedure. the gas they use to "blow" you up leaves your body faster if you walk it out. i did not know this until 3 days after my surgery or i would have been walking ASAP. keep us posted. i was in the hospital for less than 24hours.

Kotkot--Good luck Wed, I'll be thinking of you & hope things go smoothly and it's all good in there. It's always scary going into surgery, but it's really pretty minor. I was sore and really wiped out a couple days but wasn't really in bad pain. Have some sore throat lozenges on hand for afterwards, they usually use a tube to help you breathe during and it can leave your throat a little sore. Lynn's right about walking around, not much, just a little bit around your house/apartment. I didn't really have any shoulder tip pain (from the gas). Thank you so much for your kind thoughts & words. How sweet. Good luck with the Ovulex, hopefully that will do the trick. Also, many women get pg after a lap, it's said to increase your fertility for about 6 months give/take. Good luck, hang in there. Lynn--Thanks for the prayers from your friend's prayer group. I really appreciate that. So--You're welcome. About the Lupron, it's a supression drug, also used in IVF to turn off the egg making mechanism so the stim drugs can take control. I've heard of Lupron killing non-functional cysts. HTH! Good luck, hope the cyst will be gone soon, otherwise yes the Lupron should definitely do the trick. Hang in there!

well girls, the insurance company called me today and they are covering 55% of the Lap.Cost . i think this is unfair. the contract states that they cover 85% of all the in hospital procedures. i will go tomorrow and negotiate with them. Well. i will start doing some research concerning the Lap. i will keep u posted. thanks alot girls. havnt heared from carol hope that everything is just going allright with her. wish you all the best.