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I know I should take my temps again. I just got really frustrated with it when my cycles were so whacky. I hope you are all doing well.

hi, i'm 27 & from st. louis. i've never posted before. my dh (27) and i have been trying for over a year now and no luck. his semen analysis was fine--it seems to be all me. i went off the pill in july 04 and since then had irregular cycles (22-60 days). when i did get it, my af wasn't a "real" period, it was spotting brown mostly. i was getting +opk every month, but late (day 20-22ish), so i didn't think ovulating was my problem. my obgyn found my prog was low after i supposedly ovulated, so she decided to treat the "symptom" by supplementing me with prog, rather than figuring out that i probably wasn't ovulating adequately/good eggs, and trying to change that. we tried prog supplementation (sublingual--disgusting) from march-sept 05 with no other intervention. we have gone to an re since sept 05, who told us he would get me ovulating with clomid and we'd be good to go, and that taking the prog supp was ridiculous. so, to make an already long story a little shorter, we are on our 2nd month of clomid. last month hot flashes, had 2 or 3 follicules the right size to be released (per ultrasound), gave myself an injection of ovidrel and had timed intercourse. no luck. i don't know if i ovulated because we didn't do any post-ovulation bloodwork. (should we have?)i had a very light, brown 3-day period. i started my 2nd round after that (cd 3-7) 100mg for 3 days, 50mg for 2 days and had another us today. follicles ok, but lining very thin for having such a light period. he said the hot flashes are indicative of the low estrogen which is probably thinning my lining. not good. he doesn't think that clomid is probably going to be the right choice for me and we will likely want to do injections instead which won't have the anti-estrogen effects. just wondering if anybody has experienced these problems with clomid and if you've tried injections instead. thanks.

Glad you could join us! I am sorry to hear that clomid isn't going to work for you. I don't think I ovulated this cycle, so who knows? Clomid may not be my drug of choice either. :( All of this is so ttc is so frustrating! Hang in there! We are here for you!

The above post is mine, I don't know why it put your name there, Lori! Oh well! Welcome!

thanks for the warm welcome. i just can't believe i'm having trouble, you know? i am the youngest of 7 children, with 16 nieces & nephews. everybody's a fertile myrtle. uuuggghhh!

I could see how that sucks! Both of my aunts were that way, not with all the children, but the ability to conceive quickly. Not the same for my mom. Well she was lucky and just hit it at the right time with my brother and I. My dad is the type of person who can never make big steps in life. So you can imagine he was hesistant about kids. It was never quite the right time. ;) She had PCOS, hence where I got it. Knowing what we do know about PCOS, my great aunt (grandmother's sister) had it as well. Obviously it runs in the family. My grandmother had no problems conceiving 4 she carried to term and the 5th which was a m/c. I wish you the best! Baby dust! Hang in there. We will get our turn, and our children will never wonder whether they were an accident or not. They will know we definitely wanted them, because we did everything in our power to conceive them!

hi all. nothing new here. still having tons of cm and now i have intense bleeding gums. i dont know why that's happening. my chart sure looks like i didnt o so i have like no chance of being pg. i see my dr tomorrow morning to see what we do next. hopefully af will come on her own the end of this week. i'm afraid of provera. anyone having symptoms yet?

Hi Lori I am from the St.Louis area also I am just over the river. I started clomid last month and so far i am 3 days late . I have never had normal periods so am waitting a few extra days to make sure before I take a pregnancy test that and since it is my first round of clomid I am not sure if it delays it or if it is just me. My husband I am sure is preying i am pregnate because i had horrable mood swings the 4 & 5th day with the clomid. Also should i be taking my temps and having blood work done because my doctor didn't say anything about any of that.. The only other thing I needed to do was go in and have a test done to make sure my tubes weren't blocked which is the most painful thing i have ever had done to date. If anyone has advise please share .. Good luck to everyone!!

Hi Staci & Jamie, I'm glad to the supportive words, knowing I'm not alone. Every woman in my family has had at least one miscarriage, so I was actually completely preparing myself for that, but the thought never occurred to me that I wouldn't be able to conceive. My mom actually had a horrendous first preganancy with twins, where she started hemorrhaging in the 7th month and they almost lost all 3 of them. She survived as did one of the twins, but they lost the other girl. She went on to have 6 more children, with 2 miscarriages in between. My mom said she got pregnant everytime my dad looked at her. ;) I was a total "change of life" baby--my mom was 44. My mom never had another period after me. Crazy, huh? As for BBT with Clomid, I actually just started doing it again, but I'm not going to do the OPKs--they are way too expensive, and I need to be saving these days with injections next month (probably). I don't know how far we will take this fertility intervention thing. Are any of you really hesitant to do IUI or IVF? Is there anybody out there who is morally opposed to IUI or IVF? Would you rather adopt than do something so "artificial". I don't know what we will do, we are torn up about it. Obviously hopefully it won't come to that. I just can't bear to think about not carrying a child in my womb. Being a mom is the one thing I've never hesitated about.

Hey girls! Well I have been having symptoms, but nothing that couldn't be attributed to the pending arrival of AF or just high estrogen levels with my PCOS. As you all know, I never got a strong postive on an OPK this cycle. I did get a line for a couple of days around 10-12 and we bd'ed during that time. My back hurts, my boobs, I have this kind of crampy expanding feeling and I am really tired. But it could all mean that af is on her way, and the fatigue is just stress! AHAH! I hate this wait and all. I am going to take a test of Friday. If it is negative then, I am going to give AF a couple of days then take provera! Best wishes to you all! Gotta jet!

Dont worry lori things will work out for you. God just must think its not time for us yet for some reason. i'm not sure if i would do IUI or IVF. i'm not even sure what IUI is. i feel that if God wants it to happen it would happen without all that intervention. i'm just praying it doesnt go that far with us. i dont feel i can say either way until i'm in that situation. so i had my dr appt today and i was crushed. my boss sent me home because i was crying so much. my progesterone level was at 1.0 last thursday so i didnt O so now i'm on progesterone to have af then start 100mg clomid then on cd 14 have an ultrasound done to see if follicles are mature and if so my dr is giving me an hcg shot to make me release an egg. she said that my progesterone level is not high enough for me to release eggs. when i O'd on my own last month my progesterone was only at 6.5 so not good. they want it at 10 or above for those who dont know. so i'm a bit upset today and am just hoping these progest. pills treat me ok and dont make me moody. i'm thinking about having hubby's sperm checked too before i o to see if he possibly has a problem too. just incase. how is everyone else?

This is my 2nd month on clomid and while it hasn't worked for us YET, I've heard from several people that it has a good success rate in helping things along... As far as side effects, I had a few mood swings and hot flashes here and there. Overall, I was expecting it to be a lot worse. Good luck to all of you!

Krista, sorry to hear the news. :( boo! TTC sucks! Well I took a OPK for the heck of it and my test line was almost as dark as the ref? I am on CD 20. I always have longer cycles, but I always thought that you were suppose to ovulate 5-10 days after you stopped taking the clomid. I just assumed this cycle was a bust! What do y'all think? I have never gotten a line this dark before.

Hey ladies. I just returned from my RE. He said I have 2 follicles at good size, 1 a little bigger that will most likely definitely go. More would be better, but it only takes 1 right?! My lining looked a little better today--at 6mm, which wasn't terrible he said. So, knowing both of these things, he said this cycle is not a wash after all. I will take my Ovidrel shot (HCG) on Saturday and BD all weekend, baby! ;) I asked my RE about doing bloodwork at day 20 or whatever to check prog and therefore see if I ovulated. He said that the prog blood test is a lousy indicator of whether we ovulate or not. He said it's frustrating to see that so many OBs do it. He says when I take the Ovidrel, that ensures the release of the egg(s) that's ready to go. I also asked him about my lining and if he thinks I was "estrogen-deficient" before the Clomid, and that made it worse. He said that the estrogen comes from the follicular maturation, so if I'm low, that is indicative of the follicles not maturing as they should. All in all, my ovulatory dysfunction is the cause of the problem. He feels that if we get those follicles growing, that will solve my estrogen problem>thicken my lining>better to plant a fertilized egg. I also asked about checking my tubes to rule out any blockages before we spend both time, money, and energy on the injections next month, and he said that's it's unlikely I do have that problem, but he we will do a laproscopy early next cycle to see. By the way, Krista, IUI is intrauterine insemination. They take the sperm, "wash it" so it's a "pure sample" and then inject it into the uterus so it bypasses the long hostile road through your cervix, etc. It is what they used to call "artificial insemination" because that's exactly what it is. For me, it's questionable, as our baby would not be conceived through intercourse, which a difficult concept for me to grasp. I won't know if I can do it, until I'm assured that it's the only way it's going to happen (then I'm still not sure we would). I would definitely get your hubby's sperm checked, it would be a nightmare to go through all this and not realize he was the cause or a contributing factor. My friend was not ovulating correctly trying to conceive her 2nd child, they put her on Clomid and it did the trick, but they found that her husband had varicose veins around his testicles, so his sperm was not good. He had a simple outpatient procedure and they conceived the next month. I have positive examples all around me which start to give me even more hope.

what is clomid please tell me