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Tina - Sorry to hear you're feeling down - IVF is so hard. Baby Sophie and I are sending loads of baby dust your way - really hope it works and you get pregnant - February was lucky for me so hopefully its lucky month for you too and all the others doing IVF. Hope you have a good Valentines Day meal and hopefully this time next year there'll be 3 of you! I'm been depressed for the last few days too and having lots of strange thoughts that I'm contaminating everything - I hate those hormones! I'm glad DH is coming to see me tomorrow and also I'm trying acupuncture tomorrow so hopefully something will help. Sophie is still blissfully happy (think the clinic must have implanted the wrong baby as she doesn't get that from me or DH!) but its nice to have such a happy baby. Louisa - I only did one ICSI and it worked. Some clinics seem to do back to back, mine liked you to wait a few months. I'd ask your clinic when's best to start again. At least you got an excellent embryo last time - hopefully it'll be second time lucky for you too. Terry - My clinic did lots of 2 day transfers but mine was day 3. It's easier to tell which is the best embryo on day 3 though. I did the egg collection on day 15 I think but some people they made wait longer. I think the clinic makes people wait longer if the eggs aren't big enough on that date but not totally sure about that. Hope it works and lots of baby dust!

Thanks guys... I called the clinic and they said to was good to go again as I didnt have any hormone injections last time as it was a frozen cycle. So the 22nd is the first round of blood tests. But I wanted to share something with you all that was sent to me by a dear dear friend who is also going through IVF. I sent it to a few family members and friends who just didn't get what we were going through.... that is of course until now. Basically you will need lots and lots of tissues. - - - - - - - - http://www.vocalicious.com/e
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Loiusa - I got into the site you need to take out the hypens. This site always add them. Its sad - I remember feeling exactly the same. I hope you and your friend get babies soon. At least you can start now.

Hi everyone! Tina- I started the Follistim on Saturday night and the RE has me doing 300 each night...that surprised me since I've responded really well to this drug before on much lower doses, but they're the doctors!! I go back on Wed. for my next u/s too. I'm glad we're pretty much on the same cycle, it's nice to have someone to compare notes with. Helen and Tina- So far, so good for me. No side effects yet, but then again it's only been two nights for me so far, so we'll see. In the past when I've been on Follistim my chest has become HUGE!! But so far the girls are just normal sized...time will tell I guess!! Louisa- I wish you the best of luck with your next transfer. I'm sure this one will be the one for you! Everyone else- have a great Valentine's Day!! Hang in there everyone!

Hi ladies!!! Just wanted to wish you all a happy V-Day tomorrow!! Nothing new with me... anxiously awaiting Wed. for our IVF seminar... then it will all seem so real, but we'll have to wait until April still.

Hey girls. How are ya'll doing? I'm alright. I go back in tomorrow for my transfer. The retrieval was not as bad as I thought. I'm doing this in Mexico, and was not sure what to expect. I did have a friend who did this over here, and pretty much guided me through the process and what meds. I'd might be taking. No one knows much English, except the dr, but everyone tries really hard to understand me and to get the point across. My eggs retrieval wasn't that bad. First he cleaned me up and the applied a topical anesthetic. THAT made me cramp for a minute or 2. Then the nurse poked me with her pointing finger and said that that is what I would now feel, and she was right. i had to ask the dr, if he was retrieving them. I did not feel the first 3, but did feel a lttle discomfort on 4. and by number 5 follicle, I was feeling the pain. He did not bother touching my left ovary, because it is always tender due to the endometriosis and scar tissue. Afterwards, I did bleed, but not that much. Mainly spotting. most of the blood was when I got up after lying down for about an hour. This morning there was very little bleeding and now there is none. I did cramp yesterday, but most of my pain was from the ovary he did NOT touch! Also, the pain from the progesterone injection shot has got to be the worse! I have a knot in my butt! I told my husband that that shot would be the reason why I would not do this again! But I say that now. Oh, by the way, I have paid 5,000 for the procedure! Meds and all. Also, Thank you so much for responding to me, Helen, Tina, Nina, Justine. If I missed anyone else, I'm sorry! Happy Valentine's Day. I'm mine is a baby one!

Ok...now I can't stop crying from that link about infertility.....I needed that cry though...It is soooo true...Thanks for sharing! **Baby Dust**

Hello All...so much happens when you have been off a week, but I needed the break. Welcome Louisa, I also had a failed cycle in January. My RE said to wait 1 full cylcle to help the stim meds. out of my system...but the wait is hard. I do appreciate the advice to "cherish the time" I am not ready for all the shots yet either...my hips are just healing. I also had horrible knots that turned into a rash once the shots stopped....but I would do it 1000 x for a baby! As soon as AF shows I will start my Estradoil again and then 2 weeks we'll have our FET.. Do they have any ideas why your FET didn't stick?? I am really nervous about the whole thing. Why did they do FET with you first, and now a fresh?? Justine, hang in there Happy Valentines, Tina...Keep me posted this round....and am so excited for everyone (sorry to leave out names).
Baby Dust!

Happy V-day ladies!! I am feeling alot better than yesterday. We all have our ups and downs. Thank you for all the kind words and advice! I appreciate it. Jenn, that is great we are basically on the same schedule. Hope your u/s goes well tomorrow. Louisa, I will def need to read your article another day, I had all my cries all day yesterday. Thank you for sharing. Justine, hope your 'date' tonight is wonderful and hope all you 'ladies' v-day is just as great!!

Louisa, ok, curiousity killed th cat,,,I went to that website, that was so sweet and such the truth,,,I past it along to some of my family and friends as well, thank you so much for sharing. You know, with infertility you sometimes feel so isolated, and there has been times that DH and I have withdrawn from certain family gatherings because of it. My cousin is pregnant and knows what we have been though and how tough t we have been taking this whole thing,,,well they announced at her daughters bday party to the entire family that they are expecting another baby. My mouth dropped, a little heads up would of been great. I mean, I don't want to sound selfish, I am sure you can relate with me, but she knows how tough we are taking all of this and it would of been nice to think of our feelings and let us know beforehand..I felt like it was almost a slap in the face...am I wrong to feel this way? I wish I had read this a while back when that happened. Now, each time we are at family gatherings, that is all I hear about, how she is SO nautious, how she is SO tired,,,I mean, don't get me wrong, I am so happy for them, but I mean, I feel like she could be considerate of my feelings and not glout on it as much. Anyone else feel this way, or been through this? Thanks

Hey everyone! Hope you all are enjoying your valentine's days! Tina- I hear you on the consideration thing. My evil sister-in-law announced she was pregnant in front of my husband's entire family except us and then told us in front of the entire family...when everyone else already knew...why she couldn't do this in private I'll never know, but the entire nine months I had to hear about every single ache and pain...it drove me nuts!! Anyway, enough of my negativity!!! It doesn't help to get so negative, although alittle venting here and there is definitely necessary to keep your sanity when going through all this! Good luck with your u/s tomorrow too! We'll have to compare notes tomorrow night and see where we're at. I'm alittle worried because I've had some cramping going on on the right side and that's where the cyst is. Keep your fingers crossed that it hasn't gotten huge or anything that might make us stop this round or make it not work. Take care all and keep me posted!

when you get pregnant I'm sure you will be shouting it from the roof tops. Why should people who have such great news tip toe around everyone else? a baby is a great thing!

hi girls...hope everyone had a great valentines day!!! Tina, sorry sweetie that you're having such a hard time...i do know what you mean about the sensitivity issues. don't feel bad for wanting to vent. i think all of us has a family member or two who are just put on earth to make us miserable! :o) Jen, hope the cramping goes away soon. that darn cyst!!! good luck to both of you tomorrow for your u/s. Terry, how did your transfer go? did you get some more answers from your RE? are you staying in Mexico? remember to take it easy and try to get complete bed rest for the next 2 days if you can. Michele, good to have you back. only a few more weeks to go!!! did you have fun? i'm finally done with the PIO injections as of today. i don't have to tell you what my @ss looks like from all those injections. you can literally see the lumps when looking in the mirror from a front view. i will start suppositories tomorrow. Justine, hope you had a romantic night. hi Amy, Nina, Jaqi, Louisa...(hope i didn't leave anyone out) it's so hard to keep up now that we have so many girls...but it's great to see our community growing!!! sending you tons of baby dust and prayers.

Tina, I completely understand where your come from. As for "well" we are happy we just feel that people especially some family members are very insensitive and rude with how they tell us they are pregnant. Having a baby is not just great news its a MIRACLE to us. Because we struggled. We endured heartache. We were at out lowest of lows. We know what it feels like to hit rock bottom. Unfortunately most of these ladies that pop kids out left right and centre don't and will never understand where we come from and what we feel. Personally, I feel woman who go through this are stronger than the average Jane. My charming SIL rang me during the day a few weeks back to talk about something and told me she had to go. Then later that afternoon my BIL rang to tell me if i'm ready to be an aunt!! Hello?? but when were you even trying??? Mind you, in the background she's going "I rang to tell you earlier but just didn't know how"!!! Please cow don't feel sorry for me!!. Then she says..."c'mon Louisa, you HAVE to fall pregnant, so our kids can grow up together"!!! Cow, if you had half a brain you wouldn't say that as you know what i've been through and If God wanted me to have one if would have been over 3 years ago!!! THEN..she rang me the next day to see how I was coping with the news?!?!? How I was coping?!?! Well, cow of a SIL I was happy till you opened your mouth and rubbish came out. A few days later I found out that have been trying for 3 months and never told us..cause they just didn't know how..booo hooo.... We just need a break, we need support, we need patience. Not to feel sorry for. We are not rejects. We are not losers. We are God's special children as he wants us to have kids who are truly loved and wanted by their parents.

Good morning Ladies... Helen good luck today, can't wait for your post, we'll all be thinking of you. Tina- I totally agree with you, it happens to me all the time, in fact almost everyone that I know is either pg now or just had their babies, and then there's me. None of them ever stopped to think how DH and I feel when they tallk about all of their symptoms in front of us, and make jokes about us ttc, like we better get BDing, and it's our turn next!! They just don't understand that there is hardly a chance of that happening and that we MUST do IVF, as it is our last option. It's so hard to explain to the people who just don't have a clue. Of course my family and close friends understand for the ,most part as we have tried to explain it to them. Anyway enough about that, but I'm sure so many of you can relate... off to work, have a good day.