HOPE FOR A NEW CYCLE 2
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Blakey - April 7

Hi Kel-
no I didn't really have lot of signs or symptoms. I did have sore bb's but that was because Iwas on progesterone support, and it can cause sore bb's-
I actually felt like I was getting AF, I had some mild cramps a few days before I was going in for my bloodtest, oh, and also I had lower backache. I would have sworn I was getting my period. as a matter of fact, 3 days before I was going in for my bloodtest, I was getting rady for work, and was sad, because i had feelings of AF coming, and I was telling my DH I didn't think the cycle worked etc...and he kept telling me to think positive, and not to give up, but I was just questioning it, because I had the symptoms of my period...but then it never came!!!! So it's hard because your trying to find signs, to let you know, but in actuality, you may be pregnant if you have signs of AF, and if your not esp. anything. I am thinking positive for you...I know going in for the test is scary, I always felt that way too, but it iwll be okay. hope your having a good weekend, and keeping yourself busy! Your right, one week down...that's awesome!! Are you going anywhere for Easter??? Have a wonderful day!! Thinking of you.......:-)

 

cspears99 - April 7

I just wanted to wish you both a happy easter!! Kelly I hope you are doing okay one more week can't wait to hear some good news!! and Kim I hope you are feeling great, talk to you both soon, Cheryl

 

tanner789 - April 8

cheryl its good to hear from you hope your hanging in there and have a great easter. kim its nice to hear that you didnt have definate signs of being preggers it gives me a glimmer of hope. i hear of alot of women who swear af is coming and then find out ther pregnant, so maybe i wanna feel like af is coming soon-just kidding. yes so glad a week is down, now i just have to get thru this week and they told me to test for bw the mon april 16th, but i would like to see if they would mind testing me sat the 14th b/c my hubbies off and either way i can have him home with me for the news and support if they test me sat that would put me at 12 days post iui and 14 days post trigger-do you think that would still be too early, i know the hsg is fading b/c ovulation tests the line is like barely visible. well anyway hope your doing good, and have a great easter im sure around your family there will be plenty of baby talk -yeah thats so exciting. is there anyone yet you havent told? take care-kel

 

Blakey - April 8

Hi cheryl- glad your doing well! Happy Easter to you both!!!

Glad your feeling well kelle. I think that's nice to go in earlier if your able, so DH can be with you, I understand how important that is to be with your husband when hearing the news.

Actually, we are telling my family today...they still don't know, except for my Dad. We purposely waited for Easter to tell them the news. I think they will all be surprised!
I still haven;t told one of my best freinds. She has been visiting her Mother in NC- and she just got back,. I have spoke to her on the phone, and she always asks me how things are going, but I have not told her, because i want to tell her in person. Also, extended family doesn't know, cousins....aunt/Uncle.....
One my my brothers won't be there today at my Dad's house, so I will probably call him this week to tell him...don't want him to feel left out.
Hope you will be a ble to share in some great news soon! Have a HAppy Easter- what are you doing??? Hope you have fun being with DH and family.

 

tanner789 - April 9

well kim hope all went well today and had alot of fun telling all the family. our easter was pretty nice had to split the day between family but went pretty well. my boobs today are feeling alot more fuller and my nipples are killing me, still exp on and off again cramping, and when i got home i went to the bathroom and wiped and alot of egg white type discharge, do you think its possible i could only be ovulating now, or for sure the trigger shot would have forced ovulation last weekend? i did try and check my cervix and its low & closed and had more discharge. yesterday i do know my discharge was creamy so what gives, what do you think that could be from? i do go tommorrow for ovualtion bw so tommorrow i will find out if they will draw my blood this coming sat, either way heres to hoping for a fast week.

 

tanner789 - April 9

well i had the most horrible day- i went to the dr this morning and had my progesterone and estradiol level drawn, and went on my way to work, well as it turns out the cramps i was feeling was the ugly witch rearing her way down, i got to work went to the bathroom and i started and very heavy, i knew there was no way i could stay at work so i faked the flu and fled i came home and must have cried for a couple hrs with dh, alls i wanted to do was fall back alseep so the nightmare would end, eventually i was able to but was awoken by my drs office call explaining that my progesterone level was very low and that i hadnt ovulated, i just got done talkign to the nurse and she said my body just did somethign very weird this month that maybe i ovulated a dif follicle before the trigger shot, i really dont think they know. even though dh didnt want to continue another month i made the executive decision to try again they said they want to moniter me every month rather than every other day or every two days and we are doing just straight injectables starting gaain this wed. hope all is well with you.

 

cspears99 - April 9

Hi Kelly I am a little confused were you dreaming at first but then got the call that it was true? you did start your a/f?? If you did I am so sorry but I wouldn't recommned starting right away even though you started your a/f your body isn't on track and forcing it again may not work I would wait until you get a normal a/f next month, but tell me I am confused I can't even imagine what you feeling I don't think I am going to do it again I really don't think they know and for those it works for I think its just luck they can't tell if you ovulated or not, there is no way for them to know if a follicle dropped or not?? so I don't know what they are saying, good luck

 

Blakey - April 9

Hi Kellie-
I am so sorry! I can't beleive it, after I read your post...that is such a bummer. I feel upset, towards your clinic, because they were monitoring you,and they should know when your going to ovulate etc.. when doing an iui.....and as Cheryl said, sometimes I don't think they do know....and they miss it entirely, and it sounds like that is what happened. I am so, so sorry! It's upseting, because we put our trust in the Dr's feeling confident they know what they are doing, and when it's going to happen, but it 's true, at times they don't know. The last iui I had, before moving on to IVF, I felt like I had already ovulated the day I went in for the procedure...for I had symptoms the day before, and then the ay I had gone in, I felt nothing...and then got my period eraly too, just after a week, so I knew I had ovulated before the trigger shot. I was so upset. I remember saying that to the nurse, asking her if it was possible and she fluffed it off by saying, oh I'm sure your fine...but when you get your period early, after only a week after the iui- that is a pretty clear indication that you ovualted sooner....that just stinks! I am so sorry!!! I understand how you must have felt...Oh kellie. Have you thought about swithing RE's??? maybe??? so sorry.....your in my thoughts hon.

 

tanner789 - April 10

thanks for your thoughts ladies, sorry to confuse you cheryl no i was not dreaming what happened was i went to have my bw drawn this morning to check to see if i ovulated when i went to work after i walked into the bathroom and saw i had gotten my period i then faked sick and left knowing i wouldnt make it thru work so i came home and climbed in bed with dh and cried for several hrs, i finally feel asleep when they woke me up by calling to tell me about my bw results-the girl who called me didnt know much b/c she wasnt the nurse so i talked to the nurse later and that when i had discovered they think i ovulated early, my hubby is just as confused as u guys are as to why they didnt see it, he said isnt this what we pay them for, honestly i think they need a new u/s girl shes the one who seems to screw everything up including all the misleading info shes given me along the way and upset me, other than her i love the clinic and even though it may seem like i shoudl get a second opinion im afradi to start all over and waste just as much time as we did in the beggining with this place. i guess they just need to figure my body out, i know they have success, and they come highly recommnded maybe its just my luck. well its obvious i ovulated early b/c my last period was march 12th so i did end up having a 29-30 day perfect cycle as i did last time i was on gonal f. i guess we just need to make sure we start bding a lil early i honestly think we just missed it by a few days. too bad your body couldnt give you more of an idea like light up or something when it was fertile time, instead everythings so dams hard, but as for you cheyl i dont blame you if you didnt go ahead with ivf b/c i did hear some girl on here had tried it three times, if the emotional part wasnt involved id say do it 100% but thats a hard choice. have you been trying anhow naturally?

 

cspears99 - April 10

Kelly I am so sorry I can't imagine going through that again!! I was so angry after mine was canceled but it really isn't there fault everyone is so different, they can only hope you ovulate with the shot but there is no way for them to tell, not even on an u/s can they tell if you ovulate, so its always just a chance, you had follicles the last time so you could have dropped before that or even after and just didn't make that window with IUI you only have like a 12 hour window for the egg to release and the sperm to get there, sperm lives a lot longer on its own, that is why its so tough to catch it. I just have mixed feelings my friend cheryl got preggers on first iUI then for her second pregnancy did the gonal f with IUI 3 times all failed then got preggers with twins first IVF so I just don't know so confused and my dh and I have awful luck too that is why i am so confused, I really feel for you I wish I could say something to make you feel better, I was thinking about you all day!! I want to cry for you, please hang in there your body is doing what its supposed to and it will take time for the clinic to figure out your body that is what I was told I just don't know if I have the patience, but think good thoughts it has to happen I am here for you I will keep checking in you were there for me, take care of yourself let me know what you decide to do. Hi Kim I hope your Easter was nice did you tell some more people? good night ladies, Cheryl

 

cspears99 - April 10

Hi answer to your question that is about the only good thing about this break we having great bd, its been so long since I have been able to enjoy it, although with this a/f I was still really sad because we did every day I tested ovulation don't tell anyone, :-) I say I am not trying but how can not, so this a/f lasted so long and was so painful, but yes trying on our own just don't know if dh sperm is good enough on our own?? we'll see I guess, take care of yourself i wll be thinking positive thoughts for you,

 

Blakey - April 10

HI~
Actually I do think it's the RE's fault. They have control over the situation, because you are calling them on day 1 of your cycle..and they are keeping a close watch on you, with monitoring, bloodwork, and u/s- ithey did screw up! I am sorry, but it frustrates, and upsets me to hear stories like this...you put your trust in your RE...not to mention that these treatments cost money....and as I know, some Ins. don't cover....as well as your meds. I really beleive they should have known...that's why their the specialists. I feel just so bad, because you did everything you were told to do, and it was he mere fact that they made a mistake. I feel like they try to cover things up, and say..: oh, it was your cycle"- It's not right, and it's not fair. Maybe you could talk to them about adjusting your payment for next iui, since they were off with the trigger, etc...and seems from what you mentioned, (where you got your period just a week after iui) that confirms you had ovulated earlier than the trigger...maybe they could adjust your payment, and they could deduct for next treatment? I would talk to your RE about it, and discuss, it's worth a shot. I am sorry for what happened, it just isen't fair!
Cheryl..as far as the IVF- it is wicked exspenive...I can totally empathise, our INS. did not cover anything, and we payed for 2 IVF cycles out of pocket, and know have to start to save our money again, which has been very hard. I know they have programs, where they will help you financially, and you can get a loan..etc.. or you can save up some of the $$$ until your ready. I know, it just stinks that ins. co. don't cover..it's so wrong. I would recomend IVF, if all else doesn't work. Only because your chances do go up a lot higher...and their is very close monitoring with IVF, they can't srew that up, because you go in for the egg retrieval, and then they transfer back the fertilized eggs, so everything is watched extremely closely...also, if you do IVF, at least you'll know that you really tried, and you won't ever look back and say " I wonder what would have happened if I had done invitro"- but again...it is a personal choice, and you have to do what will work for you, it's not for everyone. I know you said you had some friends who did IVF, it may help to talk to them, as well as your DH, and RE. Do what is best for you.....Good luck in wherever your journey takes you!!! All the best~ kim

 

cspears99 - April 11

Trust me I understand the frustration and I have been reading a lot on this website about everyone being upset about there dr not knowing when they ovulate but if they could pin point everyones ovulation then they wouldn't be making all the money and we wouldn't be so sad, its a fact not everyone ovulates and all this medication and monitoring just helps and hopes that you ovulate, but there is no way to know? I got my period always within a week if not right to the day even after all IUI's, I don't know I always got very angry after mine failed but I know they can't tell when you ovulate, if your follicles are still showing in the u/s then you didn't ovulate or they wouldn't be there but that still doesn't mean anything dropped or that your sperm was there?? Kim you understand that right, I understand that, but I also agree that I think they hide a lot of stuff and pretend to know more than they do, and its awful because we are all so vulnerable and we will listen to whatever they tell us, I think its awful and it really makes me angry sometimes, I think after this happening for you Kelly I don't think I can do it again I just don't think they know enough I think when it works its just luck I really do, I know to many people this has happened to, Kim is everything okay with you??? you mentioned you would have to do IVF again is that just when you want another child? I hope everything is okay with you and Kelly I hope you are doing okay, I am so sorry for you, good night ladies.

 

tanner789 - April 11

cheryl dont quit on the ttc thru help due to my problems i just have had a bad string of luck and they cant figure it out either, i do think its their fault, they can moniter ovulaiton thru the u/s by watching for some type of sac they were telling me about and your estradiol level, somewhere somehow it just got f--ked up. but you have a completely dif dr and you have your ins to pay for the ivf go for it and never look back as like kim says you will second guess ur decision. people with no ins covergae for ivf woudl die to be in your shoes. i hope you second think this and decide only whats right for you. well back to the drs tommorrow, and yes kim i will mention something along the way for a price reduction for the possible next iui. i was thinking i may not even be able to continue this month i fi have left over follicles like last time. the only thing that suck about trying this month is if it doent work i get my period during our crusie-YUCK!!! update ya later

 

cspears99 - April 11

Hey Kelly what did you decide what you are going to do are you going to start again right away?? and we don't have insurance for infertility we paid everything out of pocket we are out over 18,000 already, California doesn't cover any infertility, and IVF for one round with meds is over 22,000 so we most likely won't ever do it, we talked about a loan but this year we owe over 9,000 in taxes so its not looking promising!! sorry about your a/f for the cruise, when are you leaving?? I hope you are okay, my dh and I have the worst luck when it comes to pretty much anything so I think trying again just isn't going to happen for a while, take care, Cheryl

 

Blakey - April 11

Hi Kellie, and Cheryl,
I understand your thoughts Cheryl, and what you are saying. I think we all agree on the fact that we do beleive what they tell us, and yes, we are so vulnerable when ddoing these treatments, and taking the meds...and yes, I beleive whole heartedly that they do "mess up" and then try to cover themselves...blaming it on our cycles etc...it really upsets me too, it just doesn't seem fair at all. My former RE (before i had switched to my new one) she was prescribing the wrong protocols for me. She was telling me I just wasen't responding etc...and would bnblame it on my age, etc...which yes, as we get older, our reserve does start to diminish etc.. but she wouldn't take any responsibility. She had prescribed this one protocol for me, where I was on stims for like 8 days and I onkly had 1 follicle- I just did not respond...a lot of the time, they are guessing, and it is literally a hit or miss with the meds, and protocols, and sometimes it takes them a few cycles to see what will work best for your body as far as dosage, and how much. They learn as they see how your body responds...
It is very upsetting. I too have read a lot of different stories on the boards, and other girls who have gone through similar situations, and are so upset with their Re's. I am sorry Kell, for your lost cyle this month, and I think that is awesome your going to mention about the adjustment for your iui- they should really try to compromise, and do that. I know, my Husband used to get upst with RE, and sometimes he thought they were all in it for the $$$- where patients would just continue doing cycle after cyle, and diffferent tretaments. I don't like to beleive that, but I know a lot of people feel that way.
Oh Cheryl...I am fine hon. I am sorry if I mentioned something in my last personal, that made you thin I was doing another IVF. no hon, I was mentioning how I had done 2 cycles of IVF, all out of pocket, and we basically went through all of our savings. No we are starting to save money again, (not for IVF)- just to try to build up our account again, and it is so hard. I understand your position, it just stinks that Ins. Co. don't cover in some states, it really upsets me. I hope someday that will change. It will all work out, and it may happen when you least expect it! Good luck to you! Hope you both are well...thinking of you both~
kim

 

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