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Ann, you can live vicariously through me during the 2ww, but its so dreadful you shouldnt! I am part of a few threads regularly, and even though Im sure we dont mean to, when random people jump in here and then, they seem to get ignored a little. I dont want to disrupt what is already going on. I tried to get all of your down on that thread and what was going on w/ each of you, but you guys are mad posters!!! I couldnt follow it, and there is nothing worse. Anyway-sounds so odd to say, but hope AF gets here soon for you so you can get started. Seems like we are always waiting for something doesnt it?

Wanting af to show is definitely the strangest feeling. The only wait I look forward to is the end of the 9 months one! You post with Tracy on an ongoing thread, don't you? I post with her on a small one and she said I could jump on with you guys one time. I did the same thing you did--started looking through the thread to catch up and got overwhelmed!LOL I will definitely live vicariously through you when you start testing. I LOVE testing!! Did you think the Menopur injections were painful? If so, did you do anything to numb the area?

Ann, I do post w/ Tracy on another thread. Its really hard to get established into a thread, unless you were there from the start, especially if the girls have been posting together for as long as we have on our respective threads. My testing this month will be short lived. I decided not to test until my blood test at the RE's on the 28th. I dont want to test early and have the pain of a negative. Guess I''ll save that for the RE. At this point, I wish and pray it happens, but it almost seems too good to be true if it does if that makes any sense. The Menopur was a little painful, I have to say. It was not so much the needle going in, it was the medication going in and the sting. A few times I bled, and a few times I bruised. Other times it wasnt so bad. It was strange, no two shots were the same. I didnt do anything to numb it, but I have heard that putting ice on it before hand helps. Since you said you have an issue w/ the needles, I cant imagine how this is for you. I dont prefer them, but as long as I dont look, Im ok.

Hey Ladies-

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I hate to butt in but I have a questions- what dose are you on? Has anyone taken Repronex and what cd days? Also- how many follicles did you have? I am currently on cd 6. Thanks
Tammy

CC, sorry I dropped off the face of the earth this week. I worked just short of 70 hours in only Monday-Friday, including going out of town twice...I wish I had the option to not look at the needles, but I give all the shots to myself. My dh hates needles, too. I gave myself 23 last cycle. I had my baseline u/s this morning and all is well. I took my first shot of Lupron today after my appt, and I start the Follistim tomorrow. The dr is writing me a prescription for EMLA--some stuff to numb the skin before the shot--I will use it with the Menopur to see if it helps. I iced the area last time, but it didn't help much. How are you feeling? Any symptoms? Tammy, hello and welcome. I have never taken Repronex, but Menopur is similar (both FSH/LH combos). I have only done one round of injectibles, but here is what I did: diluted Lupron twice per day, 150 of Follistim once per day, and Menopur for two days. Last time I only did the meds for 5 days before I needed the trigger. I am on cd3 today and start stimming tomorrow. Have you started your meds yet?

Hi Ann-

I am on cd 6- 75 iu Repronex. I started taking it cd 3. I am just wondering what I will see on Monday.

Thanks
Tammy

Tammy, you should see some follies, but you probably won't be able to tell exactly how many will make it to maturity. In other words, you will probably have some around, or maybe even over, 12mm and some smaller ones that may or may not make it (assuming you are responding to the meds). I had a bad shot this morning (Lupron). When I pulled the needle out, it bled really quickly and it bled enough blood to start running down my stomach. Now it is bruised and swollen. Maybe I hit a blood vessel or something. Ugh!! I hate needles.

Hi Ann-Wow, you do have a busy work schedule. Isnt it a shame we all work so much and have such little time to enjoy other things? I had a high stress job, supervising a business office at a hospital, responsible for millions and millions of dollars each month. I demoted myself (yikes) about a year ago, took a pay cut, and started doing the work of someone I used to supervise, only at home full time instead of in the office. While it was a big chance, and hard to get used to the fact that I had done it to myself, it was all for the better and I wouldnt trade it for the world. I dont miss the hour commute I had one way, or the office politics, the stress of the responsibilities. We thought we would have a baby at least by now, so it seemed like the natural transition. Who knew! Anyway-your dh hates needles too??!!! Oh no!! Thats horrible for you both, and you get a lot of shots each cycle. Poor thing. I dont love the shots, but they are bearable, and my dh doesnt like to give them, but I dont think I could do it to myself. I think you should make him give you at least one, and see if it helps you. You might be surprised if you dont have to do it, or see it how much better it is. The EMLA sounds like what you need, let me know if it helps you any. I dont seem to be doing well this 2ww. I am feeling very down, and negative. Not having or feeling any signs, I dont think my IUI's were successful. I cant wait for Friday to be here so I can get the bfn from my blood test and start thinking about the next cycle. I have no problem during the 1st two weeks, at least then I feel like I am doing something. The last two wks of my cycle, I fall apart sometimes. This month seems to have been really bad, and I am even driving my ownself nuts!! Im ready for the bfn, and to move on! Keep me posted on your progress, you are in the exciting time in my opinion. You can live vicariously through me now and I will do the same with you!

Hi CC, I like my job, but I do wish it was shorter hours. Plus, like you used to, I have an hour commute each way. However, I am the breadwinner as well as the one with the insurance, so I am stuck for a while! I may switch to a job with fewer hours in a couple years or so and will definitely cut back if we can ever get pg. My dh has his own business, and he works either at home or a client's house. He also has a 10yo son that we have 50% custody of, and he is great with the home stuff and kid stuff. So, we will have a role reversal from the typical scenario. That would be nice to work at home like you do! I don't know if I could stay focused, though. My dh said he will give me the shots if I want him to, but I would rather give them to myself. The shots are so upsetting to me that I don't want him to feel like he is contributing to that. I am sorry you are feeling down. Try not to be too negative. I have known so many people that were sooo sure they weren't pg and sooo positive that af was on their doorsteps and then got a BFP! I am excited for you to test on Friday!! Will you get results the same day?

Hi Ann-I think a role reversal from the tradition female/males roles is a good thing, as long as everyone is happy. My dh does 90% of the cooking in our house, and although its not the same situation as yours, it works for us. In such a crazy life and times that we all live in, I say whatever works!! How is the step mom role? I think it would be very difficult at times, but a lot of it depends on the child I guess. How are your shots going and how are you doing w/ them? I finally can not find any pin holes in my stomach anymore but where I got my trigger still is sore, after a week and a half if I rub it. Ouch! Yes, I will get my blood test results back the same day, as long as I am in before 10:00 am, and my appointment is @ 9:30. They will call sometime after 3:00. What do you take to bring on AF ? I scrolled back but couldnt find anything. I think I will have to take something since I am taking progesterone and my RE said chances are, I wont get AF on my own. Just wondering what I can expect.

CC, I was taking progesterone, and I still got my af. I had not stopped taking it, because I got af before I went in for the blood test. So, you may not have to take anything! The stepmom role is good. I don't really think of myself as a "parent" but my dss thinks of me that way. I will hear him refer to me as "mom" to his friends (he doesn't call me that), and it is sort of odd. Dh and I have been together since dss was 3, so he is used to my being around. Also, dss is a really good, well-behaved kid. And my dh's ex-wife is nice and easy to deal with. I talk to her at least a couple times per week. Dh is happy he doesn't have to talk to her, too,:) so it all works out. I can see how it could be a difficult situation. I don't think any situation with divorce and kids can be good, but this is about the best it can be, I think. That being said, if I can't get pg, I don't know what I will do. I can't bear the thought of knowing that dh has a child with someone else but I can't have any. Truthfully, that may be the demise of my marriage. I know that sounds harsh, but I would not want to be in that situation no matter how good dh's and my relationship is. The role reversal works out well for us. Some people can be kind of negative/judgmental about it (might be that I live in Texas and people tend to be a little more conservative here). But, whatever!! All the dr stuff took so long that I decided not to go in to work today. Plus, I forgot to put my computer in the car! Wasted day, but it has been nice even with all the dr stuff. I have some activity on both of my ovaries, but they can't tell how many follies will make it yet. I got the numbing cream from the dr today, too, for the Menopur shots. I have to take Menopur tonight and tomorrow night along with the Follistim and Lupron (3 shots tonight--yikes!!). The dr said I will probably have the iui this weekend or possibly Monday. I saw a new RE today, too, to talk about ivf (my current RE has been difficult at times and he doesn't take insurance for ivf). I liked the other RE. He was pretty intense, but the office is smaller and I liked the nurse. The RE works with a big group of drs, but they each have their own practices. I got an info package on ivf. I have to read through it all tonight. When I was talking to the new RE, his phone kept ringing, and he said (sort of loudly), "I don't know what all this foolishness is!!" Dh and I just looked at each other. On the flip side of that, he seems really anal, and I think that is a good thing in a RE. Also, only he and his nurse do the blood draws. She has worked in infertility for 15 years, so I assume they must be good at that (you know how I hate the needles:)). Sorry for the novel post. I can't believe your trigger place is still sore. I feel for you!! How are you doing with the wait? I am so excited that you find out soon. I am totally living vicariously through you now. Do you have a celebration plan for this weekend if you get a BFP?

Hi Ann! I was happy to read you still got AF while on the progesterone. I hope the same happens to me, the less pills and hormones I have to take, the better. You do sound like you have a great situation w/ your dss and the ex wife! I think thats great and not a lot of people can say the same. (So sweet that he calls you Mom sometimes but I can see how that would be strange to hear-especially now at this point in your life w/ ttc)..I completely understand where you are coming from w/ not being able to get pregnant but dh already having one. I think I would feel the same way. There is so much pressure about it all as is, I can imagine that just addes to it all. Did you have any idea there might be problems before you got married ? I went through a period of time in my 20's where I had really irregular cycles, my pap smears were coming back w/ irregular cells, and I just have always thought from then on I might have a problem. I told my dh while we were dating seriously that I wasnt sure I could have children, or at least with ease, and if it was something really important to him that he knew he absolutely wanted, then I needed to know! Pretty bold when I look back. The irony of it all is, they cant find anything wrong with me but he has morphology and motility issues!! He should have been giving me that speech! Even though his issues are slight, I still there is something w/ me that they havent found. I had a endocynologist that I saw once who tested me for PCOS and said I had it, but then my OB I have been seeing for 17 years said I didnt. My RE now doesnt believe in it, so Im sort of in a whirlwind there..Dont know what to think. I dated my high school sweetheart for almost 8 years, and we were young and dumb for many years with no protection, or would go in phases where we would or wouldnt for months at a time, and I never even had a accident. He is now married and his wife is pregnant with # 2, so I just find it hard to believe we never had an accident (and thank God we didnt-we were so stupid!) in all that time. So-who knows. I hate the "unexplained" catagory. My dh's issues arent even bad enough to put us into a new catagory for crap sake!! Phew-I dont know where all that came from!! Where in TX are you ? My DH loves it there and we have thought about moving there. Overall, so much more affordable as far as housing than Southern Ca. I love it here, but its too expensive and crowded. Let me know how the numbing cream works. I know, I am not looking forward to the Menopur again and feeling the burn. So a new RE huh ? You are smart to find someone who accepts your insurance, sometimes thats half the battle. Did they give you any pricing info or is that in the packet? I think an anal RE w/ a small office sounds really good to me!! I go to Hunting Reproductive here in CA (they advertise on this page, the green box on the right from this posting box) and I am absolutely a number there. They have offices all over So Ca, and while I havent had any problems yet, I like the small office feel. So I assume if this IUI doesnt work (and I soo hope it does for you) then you will be switching RE's to do IVF? At least that is exciting. How sad when IVF is exciting for us huh?! I hope your IUI goes great (already this weekend, its amazing w/ the meds how fast we get there) and you dont need to worry about that. Follies on both sides is always good too. As for me and the 2ww-I think I did my freaking out and stressing last week. This week I have been calm, trying not to think about it too much. Just want to get the answer and move on I guess. I can not allow myself to think anything positive, it seems easier when you get the bfn if you thought it was coming, although how much easier, I dont know. You are very optimistic about celebration plans! No, I havent thought that far ahead and probably wont need to. We have a baptism to go to on Sunday where dh and I are the Godparents, so I am just praying I can get through that without falling about after getting a bfn. Talk about a novel post!! Sorry!!

CC, I kind of always thought I may not be able to get pg, but I also thought it was sort of that "it can't happen to me" thought. I have always had cycles as regular as clockwork and no bad af cramps for the most part. I O on my own, too. I never had any signs that ttc may be difficult. What does it mean when you get an irregular pap? I live in Dallas. I know several people here from California. It is so reasonable to live here and the economy/job market is great. Where do you live in Cali? With insurance and my current RE it is strange. He is listed on my insurance's website, and he takes my insurance for everything but ivf. All $$$ motivated, I am sure. My insurance is great. It covers infertility up to $25K and meds, even injectibles, don't count against the $25K. My ivf procedure will only cost me a $100 copay (maybe 200 because there will be the retrieval and the transfer) and the copays for the u/s visits. It is really a load off to not have to also worry about the financial side. The new RE said that, without insurance, the ivf would cost about $11K. We do plan to switch to ivf if this cycle doesn't work. If that happens, I will start on suppression about the second week in June. What about you? Have you thought about if/when you might move on to ivf. It is exciting in a way, but I hate the thought of it. It seems like having a baby should be such a natural thing, but it is not for us!! Good luck at your Baptism this weekend. That is really tough for you to have to attend right now. I hope you get the BFP Friday and then it will be easier. Does the couple know that you are ttc? We have told absolutely no one and don't plan to tell. That is why I love this site. Otherwise, I would be internalizing everything.

Ann, I never really had signs that I would have trouble either, more of just a feeling I got after I started having irregular cycles and abnormal paps. I figured neither one was good, and when they found pre-cancerous cells, it just didnt sound good to me. My cycles have been pretty regular now for years and my pap's have been normal for over 10 years as well. Who knows. Thats the beauty of unxplained infertility. I live in a small town called Sunset Beach which is right next to Huntington Beach. Most people know where that is. Wow, you are lucky that your insurance coverage is good. My IUI's are covered and I just have small co-pays for everything including the meds but I have no IVF coverage, so for us, its a big leap. My dh doesnt have insurance coverage since he is self employed, so its my coverage or nothing (sounds like you). Since this was my 1st IUI round, we will do two more rounds, then figure out where to go from there. I hope it doesnt have to go there for either of us. The baptism is for my best girlfriends 3rd son, and I am Godmother to her other two sons, so yes, they know. She tries to be understanding, but she doesnt really understand what I am going through. She got pregnant w/ all 3 w/ no problems, had uneventful pregnancies and deliveries for the most part. She is so lucky!!

That sounds a lot like us, since my dh is self-employed, too! I am surprised you don't have ivf coverage, since you work for a hospital. Hope you don't need it anyway!! Your friend is lucky with ttc. One of my best friends has 2 kids and got pg w/one of them accidentally. She was married, but it was still an "oops." Now she is divorced already and her ex is a huge jerk. Why not us?? I can't figure it out. Sunset Beach is a really relaxing-sounding name.:) Do you have any symptoms this week? I just found out that I will be out of town Thursday at 3-Friday at about 4. Please post anyway when you get your b/w back. I have a Blackberry, so I can read the posts but not reply. I will have to do my shots out of town tomorrow. My fingers are crossed tightly that my RE won't tell me that he needs to see my Friday morning. I will panic. I won't panic until my u/s tomorrow when I find out the follie sizes. BTW, I had lunch w/some coworkers today. One is pg and the other 2 have kids. All they did was talk about kid stuff and pg stuff all through lunch. It was painful!!

Ann, please let me know how your u/s goes! I always think thats such an exciting appointment when you get to see those follies. Good luck! I dont know what to think..I have been wearing a panty liner due to the progesterone leakage, went to the bathroom, and noticed some of the progesterone on the panty liner wasnt white, it was sort of tinged tan. When I wiped, there was a little spot of blood. Went to the bathroom a little while ago, and only when I wiped did a see a little smidge again. Now nothing. Im only on cd 24, but Im thinking its AF early? Maybe from the meds? I dont know..All I can do now is wait and see if it comes full force and call my RE in the morning, since they say spotting is day one. I dont even know if I can count this as spotting at this point. AURGH.
I know all about the "oops" pregnancies, seems I have a lot of friends who have had them. If you really want to get infuriated, look on the teen forum here. Who knows how many of the stories are truthful, but I have browsed on there a few times, and was just disgusted that 16 year olds were pregnant "by accident"!! I cant even get pregnant on purpose! My girlfriend who's baptism we are attending Sunday wants me to come hang out with her and her kids on Saturday while our DH's golf. I just dont think I can do it. I love her kids, I just cant be around that right now. I got a invitation in the mail for my step sister in laws 3rd baby shower (shouldnt you stop having baby showers at some point, maybe after your FIRST??) and I dont think I am going to attend that either. Sometimes, you just need to remove yourself when you can from those situations, so I can only imagine a lunch where I was forced to listen to that conversation. Im happy for everyone who has kids or is pregnant, but it is hard at times. I'll be looking forward to your u/s post!