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Lin, I hope all those suppliments work for you. Yes, I've also read about instead cups. I actually purchased some a couple of months ago since my AF is so heavy, I thought they might help me to get through the night without making a mess. They worked really well, but I woke up around 5 am with INTENSE abdominal pain. I don't know if I had it in wrong or not, but I wouldn't advise wearing them overnight. 4-5 would be the max I would reccomend from personal experience. I might give them a try for holding sperm though. The more the merrier, right? Tink and Karen, I feel your pain. I am nearing the 2 year mark with never a bfp, and dx of nothing wrong. Heather, good luck with the IVF.

Lin- i hadn't heard of those 'cups'. might be worth looking into, although given how small she said the opening to my cervix is, i don't know that sperm are even going to get through there on their own. but it's worth a try.

Well I picked up a package last night and tried to put one in just to see if I could do it. I think I might just be too small for them (I'm a little bitty person at only 5'0"). I used it just as it says on the directions. I could tell that I pushed it in past my cervix, but the damn thing doesn't seem to fit down behind my pubic bone. When I got it in, it didn't feel particularly uncomfortable, but on a finger check I could feel that it was still sticking out into my vagina to the point that it might just fall right out. I may try again tonight as a second attempt at a rehearsal before O day, but It's not looking good.

Lin, I am literally LOL over here becaue I know exactly what you mean!!! The first time I tried to use them I had AF and I thought I had it in right, but the first time I sat down it all poured out the front. Then second time I used it I really had to force it in under my cervix and all the way to the back and then push it up behind my pelvic bone. I wasn't exactly comfortable, and after about 7 hours I was in a great deal of pain. I'm not a small girl - almost 5'8 and I'm having the same problems. I think they should offer them in various sizes. I don't know who the heck is that big down there - yikes! Anyway, I've though about using them after bding too because most of it fall out as soon as I stand up. Let me know how it goes!

Sure thing! So did you ever manage to make it work? I'm still not sure if I just didn't get it in right or if I really am too small for it. I guess I'll poke around in there tonight! :-D

No, after the painful episode I was too scared to try again, but I think I'll try it again after bding next time I O. Maybe it will work better after I'm already stretched out down there, I dunno. I'll let you know. LOL! BTW, when will you be Oing next?

lin- we did 3 post coitel tests and all showed that most of dh's sperm was dead and the doc said that we had slim to none chance of getting pregnant. dh thought it over and he said that he wants a child more than anything and that he wasnt letting his ego stand in his way of that. so he told me to go online and look up spserm donors and so i did and printed out a bunch of stuff and ordered medical profiles and stuff like that and dh looked through all of it and picked out the donor that he liked. we looked at baby pics of each one too and that helped alot. but my dh was the one who wanted to use the donor route. we havent told anyone about the donor except my sister and thats only because she goes to all appointments with me and knows everything that is going on when everyone else doesnt know anything other than i go to the doctor alot. my dh wants a baby more than anything so he is willing to do just about anything to have one. i know that he will love and treat a child as his own even though he and i will know that it isnt. the donor was completely his idea, and we dont have the money for ivf so this was the best way for us. the doc said that since most of dh's sperm was dead that he didnt see us getting pregnant without either ivf or some kind of assistance. dh thought about it for a long time before he decided to use a donor. we were to the point of breaking up after 10 years of being together because we both wanted kids. i actually am glad that dh decided instead of breaking up and moving on separately to put his pride to the side and use a donor. i could have easily did what his ex wife did to get pregnant and sleep around but im not that type of person. even though i know if i get pregnant it wont be dh's biologically it will still be his in every other way. dh is great and i know that he wont treat a child any differently because it isnt his and i know that if something happened and we split up that he would still take care of the child just like if it was his. it takes a strong man to acknowledge that he has a problem and do whatever it takes to fix it. i am not saying that a donor is for everyone, but it just worked out that way for us. it has taken alot of strain off our relationship because we both know that we are both doing everything that we can to make this happen for both of us. good luck to you though in whatever route you go, i hope that whatever you and dh decide on that it works out for the 2 of you. this ttc journey is really hard sometimes and can get frustrating, so just try to relax even though i know that is easier said than done. good luck to you all.

i am gonna bump this up for you lin.

Hey Slowpoke, thanks. Sorry I didn't see your post. I guess I've been busy. Thanks for that. That must have been a difficult decision to make. Can I ask what the results of your husband's semen analysis were?