Should I be taking B6?
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pmblake - January 16

Hey guys, I'm hoping someone can help me out. I usually have a long luteal phase (16+ days) and I've had multiple m/c's. What exactly does Vitamin B6 do? I'm taking 100mg this cycle but it doesn't sound like I'm a good candidate for it since I already have long cycles. I was hoping that it would help w/ natural progesterone post ovulation, but everything I'm reading says that it makes your luteal phase longer and that's the last thing I need! Any advice? Oh and I'm also taking low dose aspirin this cycle. Thanks for any advice!!

 

linds99 - January 16

Hi Pam, I know that Vitamin B6 has become a "known" remedy for treating PMS, even though there is no solid evidence it actually does. I really wouldn't "only" take a B6 alone, I would take a B-Complex instead, which may reduce the possibility of getting "too much B6" (which there is rising cases for toxicity in women taking vitamin B6 alone because it is in a higher dosage AND it is not hard to get B6 vitamin from the things we eat.) Are you taking a prenatal vitamin? Check the back of your prenatal and make sure there is some B6 in there...but don't take "more" other than what is already in the vitamin, just get the "extra" for your normal diet. If you take too much B6, you could get nerve damage. A deficiency of vitamin B6, folic acid, or vitamin B12 may increase your level of homocysteine in the blood. I know this because I have PCOS and metformin drugs rob the body of B6 and other vitamins so I did some research. The evidence suggests that high levels of homocysteine may damage coronary arteries or make it easier for blood clotting cells to form a clot. Do you have blood clotting issues?

 

linds99 - January 16

Also, if your luteal phase is 16+ days, it sounds like you have sufficient progesterone levels. I'm really thinking you don't have progesterone issues. But did you know the one main vitamin found in ovulation when the corpus lueum appears is lutein. The corpus luteum is formed by two different types of cells after ovulation. Those cells triple in amount and accumulate lutein, which they think is vital during ovulation. Right after ovulation, the lutein cells produce progesterone and oestrogens for the women. So that is probably why they tell you to eat alot of greens, and especially carrots around ovulation ( you get better cervical mucous) etc., because that is the vitamin the women's body does actually rely on, isn't that interesting?

Hormone secretion in the corpus luteum ceases within 14 days after ovulation if the oocyte is not fertilised. In this case, the corpus luteum degenerates into a corpus albicans - whitish scar tissue within the ovaries.

Hormone secretion continues for 2-3 month after ovulation if fertilisation occurs.

 

linds99 - January 16

This information I just found on line, so I sorry for the "scientific lingo" there...

 

pmblake - January 16

Thanks for info Linds! I understood most of it ;) When I told my doctor that i was going to take B6 this cycle... he said "it won't hurt but it's not necessary..." I think I"ll stop taking the supplement. My prenatal has 2.6mg and I do tend to eat lots of green veges and carrots so I'll just stick w/ my diet. I was just looking for what could be missing from my body causing these pregnancy breakdowns. I'd like to think that I'm not to OLD! btw, I've been keeping up w/ you everyday. My dh and I talk about you often and wish you all the best with your pregnancy. Sounds like things are moving along nicely. Keep posting and I'll keep praying for you!

 

linds99 - January 16

Thanks Pam, really, really nice for you to support me like that. I too wish you the best. Actually, I was thinking, if you really want to suspect something missing from the diet, (since you are already taking a prenatal), try a complete Omega complex. Most women don't have enough of the omegas in theird diet, because most of us don't eat tons of fish all the time. I take an omega complex everyother day with my prenatal and (it keeps me regular...meaning no constipation...) on top of all the cardiovascular benefits it provides and the vital nutriets it supplies to a baby's forming brain. I think the aspirin is ok to take, but I wouldn't take it after ovulation. In my opinion, I'd try to minimize the drug intake (except the prenatals) during the luteal phase ya know? BTW, where are you in your cycle now, are you near ovulation? Are you planning on doing an IUI this time?

 

pmblake - January 16

Thanks Linds. I've put away my B6. I only took it for less than 2 weeks so I'm sure no damage was caused. I will pick up Omega tomorrow.... I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge. I am either to lazy or busy to do the surfing for the answers!! and I am currently on CD 13. No hint of a +OPK yet, but I'm going for a follicle scan tomorrow morning so I'll know for sure if I'm going to O this month, but I'm not getting a good feeling that I will this month...I had lots of cramping and cm a few days back but today everything is painless and dry ;) and I've gone back to my OB for awhile so no IUI's or injectables for me. I'm sticking to serophene for a few months. Do you go for your weekly scan tomorrow? Seems like you've been going on Wednesdays. If so, let me know how it goes!

 

linds99 - January 16

So your are doing serophene? Probably a good idea that you are still taking the baby aspirin. After the 3rd month of taking clomid, my uterine lining wasn't ready in thickness to receive a fertilized egg, that stuff thinned it out so much. I hope you find a good Omega Complex... Fatty fish like mackerel, lake trout, herring, sardines, albacore tuna and salmon are high in two kinds of omega-3 fatty acids, EPA and DHA-and those are the most important ones for baby development of brain. But you can also eat tofu, soybeans, canola, walnut and flaxseed, and their oils, which contain LNA, which can become omega-3 fatty acid in the body. But really, the most important ones are the DHA and EPA. For myself, I wouldn't take an omega complex that is very high in vitamin A, which may be featured in the omega complexes that use real fish liver. Or if you do find one that has vitamin A, take the omega dose every-other day instead of everyday. Too much vitamin A is bad for the baby's development. Oh, BTW, yes, I do have my 7-1/2 week appointment tomorrow. Maybe we will see the baby's heartbeat tomorrow. I really don't feel pregnant though, other than really tired at night and in the morning, and increased hunger, I feel nothing. But my stomach is starting to protrude a little bit more, so I kinda know for sure "something is going on..." I'll let you know how it goes tomorrow...

 

pmblake - January 16

Thanks Linds - I got it - I shop for teas and vitamins at a health food store so I should be able to find many different brands and varieties and I will look for exactly what you have mentioned. Best of luck to you tomorrow!! And don't worry about not having symptoms... i didn't really have symptoms w/ either of my children... No morning sickness, or anything. heck I didn't even know I was pregnant w/ one my girls until 2 1/2 months and the other at 3 months along. I just remember feeling kinda out of my skin. Tired and almost flu like alot of the time. Sounds like that's where you are. just blah right?? Okay, well post tomorrow. I will too. Best to both of us.

 

pmblake - January 17

Hi LInds, I guess it's still early in your time zone. Please let me know how your u/s goes today! I just know you're going to get a nice strong healthy heartbeat today.... I just got back from my scan. 1 follicle at a nice 18, many more smaller ones. My endometrium was at 11. the tech said that was very healthy and "plump". I'm going to take my trigger shot on saturday morning and bd saturday nite and sunday night. Would that be good timing?

 

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