Poor Response to IVF Drugs??? Need Advice!
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Blakey - July 13

Hi- first, Christina, I am sorry to hear that you were feeling a bit down ofver the past couple of days, but I'd like to share some news with you too. On My successful cycle, I had 2 embies tranferred, 1 was grade C (average) 8 cell, and the other was grade B- 7 cell- and 1 of them implanted, so you can't give up hun. you have to remain positiv,e becaue the mindset, does have alot to do with it, I really beleive that, and they say that your baby picks up on that, even when they are that small...so think positive, and treat yourself as you ARE pregnant! It does only take one, and you have 2 of those little ones in there, so here's praying 1, or even the 2 stick, and get nice and cozy!! I have also heard of women who have had just 1 transferred, nd it's been a success, so it's a matter of the embryo implanting iteslf..so you can't give up. Your embies sound just fine....and they will continue to strive...so you have to keep belieivng! It sounds like you have an awesome RE who is very supportive, and encouraging, that is so important!!! Hang in there sweety, and know that dreams do and will come true! Try not to think about "the next cycle" or what if, again, you just had your transfer, you need to take care of you know for the next 2 weeks, and take it easy...no heavy lifting, etc...not even a case of soda, have DH carry that, even a gallon of water....you'll cross that bridge if you need to later on, but for now...think, and remain hopful, and positive...I am! Thank you for sharing your story regarding your friend etc...I am soory for her 2nd loss. So they told her the likelyhood of downs was there for every pregnancy? Hmmm, that surprises me because of her age, being so young. The risk is normally for women wh are 35 and older. I m happy for her she has her beautiful 2 yr. old...as I am sure she is. All the best~~ Thinking of you, and take care!
Hi Trying- hope your doing, and feeling well too!! Hope you've been taking it easy yourself..and thinking positive!!!! I have a good feeling for both of you! Thanks for you kind words also. Still no sign of AF. If it shows it will be this weekend, so I am so hoping it shows...I don't want to have to go through another surgery, and exactly what you said...all these dlays, I just hate it! I have waited so long already, and now if their is an obstruction, it adds a couple of more months now...I hope that's not the case. yes, I agree with what you said, if the OB didn't go in with a curette, to scrap, it was all done by suction, how would that cause scar tissue??? I don't get it??? It's just got to be delayed due to my hormones from the past..but now that they are on track, and my HCG is at 0, it's just got to come right??? Oh guys,....I sure hope so! I agree with what you said too, I don't know what I would do regarding a baby with downs...it so hard, and I too never want to be in that positiomn to have to decide. I do feel that god is watching over me, nd he knows what my strengths are vs. my weaknesses, and I just don't know if I would be strong enough....I pray that everything will work out for us, if we are blessed to get pregnant again. The next cycle will most likely be our last one (4th IVF)- for we have paid out of pocket the whole time. We most likley will have to take out a loan for this cycle too. I hope it will work out. If we are fortunate enough to get a BFP again, we will definitely have the amnio the next time around.
Thanks for letting me talk about it. Thank you both for you kind words.

thinking of you both...Christina, and Trying!!! hang in there U-2...and don't give up...think positive for right now your both PUPO!!!!! (PREGNANT UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE)
HUGS TO YOU BOTH...AND BIG BABY WISHES!!! xo :O)

 

trying4pg - July 15

Hi guys...Blakey I read your other post on the main forum and I am so sad that your period doesn't seem to be coming. I hope it still does, but if not that you are able to fix your obstruction asap. No matter what...we'll stick with you. I was also wondering whether you had ever done a frozen embryo transfer. I saw that you mentioned you had 3 IVFs but I didn't know if any of those were frozen transfers. As you know Christina and I don't have any eggs frozen, but I was just curious. Christina...how are you doing. I am not feeling much for symptoms...so I feel a little discouraged. Having said that I do have many symptoms...but they are all tied to the progesterone I think...sore boobs, constipated, emotional...but I had those after the egg retrieval so I can't bank on them too much. Hope you are doing ok. Are you going to test early. I don't know if I am or not...I usually don't, but i bought some tests today. I am too afraid to use them. Later ladies. My thoughts are with you both.

 

Blakey - July 15

Hi trying- first off, hun try not to worry about what your not feeling, vs. what you are feeling. it's so true, we ll tend to read into different symptoms, i did that all the time too, but it's really different for everyone. I felt the same as you, I had a lot of symptoms due to the progesterone. 4 days before i went for my beta, I had AF like cramps, and would have sworn I was getting my period, and I remember saying to my Dh, it's over...I don't think the cycle worked etc...and he put me back inot my positive frame of mind...even the day I went for my beta, i wasn't too hopeful...and it was a BFP! I am having good thoughts for you..and wishing you the best...(you too Christina, hope your doing well, and you both are keeping busy during your 2ww)-
Trying..I never had any frozen embies. I never made enough, and usually only had 1 or 2 embies to put back for tranfer.
Still no AF- and it's very unlikley it will arrive. I had the same pattern I have had for the past 3 months, funky abdominal pains, that are pretty intense at times. They started Friday, I was hoping they were menstral cramps...but these pains are different. They always come right aound the time my period should start, on day 27-28 of my cycle. I think my RE's suspicions are right. I think I definitely have some kind of a blockage...this pattern seems to confirm it. The pain has subsided a lot now, it usually does after 2 days, but I know I can't go through this again next month..it is bad, and it is stressing me out quite a bit. I put a call into my clinic this morning to let them know I had the same pattern this month, and am waiting for them to call me back, to see what my next step is. I too, just want it taken care of. I hate ll of these delays now...it's been months...and now this will take a couple of months to clear up..I am feeling a bit frustrated, right now, but know I have to try and keep my chin up...I will feel better once I know what my next step is, and that the problem is taken care of, so i can move forward. i am nervous, becuae I really don't want to go through another surgery/recovery...but know that I have to do it, if that's what's needed.

Thanks for your thoughts...
Thinking of you guys too...positive wishes!!! take care~

 

Christina97 - July 16

Hey ladies! Sorry I have been MIA this weekend...trying to not be so darn negative over here. Really trying hard! Anyway, Blakey - I got excited when I read that you might have had AF! Is there any chance your doctor could do a lap or a hysteroscopy to see if there was scar tissue? Please forgive if you mentioned in an earlier post that you had either of those done! The only reason why I bring it up is because I hear they are outpatient? Thank you so much for all of your support and you gave me hope when you said your embies were graded one as average and the othe good - though I think the good one stuck for you ;) PLEASE let us know tomorrow what your doctor says - you should call first thing!

 

Christina97 - July 16

Trying - hey hon - I am in the same boat as you right now, though I am more hopeful for you than myself! Yes, since I started the progesterone, my bbs have been sore and now they are starting to feel full, like right before I get AF. On Thursday and Friday I had 2 sharp pains around my ovaries...to the point they made me jump. I had one Friday night in my sleep and it woke me up, but it was on the right side. I feel like they are my cysts coming back. I had an emotional breakdown on Friday night when I came home and cried for over an hour. Again, attributing that to meds. The estrace has given me hot flashes and I am bloated to boot! So, I am not sure what to make of it...going to test tomorrow morning, Wednesday morning and next Sunday morning (the night before my beta) as I feel I need to try to prepare myself as much as possible for that negative outcome I am anticipating on the 23rd. OH! And I am a bit nauseaus and dizzy tonight, but I think its the estrace too - yuck! Drank almost a full bottle of club soda and ate a lot of saltines. Sorry for my "novel" here! Girls, I prayed for ALL of us today at church so know you are both in my prayers!!! Keep me posted!!!

 

trying4pg - July 17

Ugggh...I just wrote a long post and it deleted on me. So I will be quick. Christina...don't worry too much about all that you are feeling right now. I feel the same. I analyze every ache and pain (and there are many) as potential AF cramps. I am moody, depressed, and quick to tears. I was wondering if you tested today? If you did, you are much braver than I am? I just look at the box and put it away. Blakey...any word from the doc today. I am so sorry that your AF didn't come this month and I pray that we can get you fixed up and conceiving in no time. I am so sorry you are going through this. My heart is with you. Great big hugs to both of you....you were so supportive to me when I really needed it....I hope I can be the same for you.

 

Blakey - July 17

Hi guys-
well it's confirmed, I need surgery, I had heard from my nurse yesterday, and went for blood ork this morning to ck my hormone levels. My RE called me today at work. My levels came back normal. the levels were low as they would be after menstration, even though i didn't have a period, my body thinks I did. The wicked bad abdominal pain i have been feeling for the past 3 months, isn't cysts, like I thought, its' ll of the pressure backing up, and putting pressure on my uterus, becuae it has no where to go, due to the obstruction/blockage...so that is what causes the pain. the pain always starts on day 27, or 28 of my cycle, right around the time I should be getting my AF. it all makes sense, and the pattern that i was having the past 3 months was just too suspicious. i have to have a hysterscopy. I have never had this kind of surgery, just a laparscopy. I am wondering how long the recovery is. My Re wants to do it asap- she is going to have her office call m to set up a date, she said, hopefull by the 1st ofr 2nd week in august, before my next period would arrive, so I don't have to put myself through the pain again, from the blockage. I am a little nervous about the surgery, but know i am in good hands, I really like my RE a lot, she is great!
I am actually relieved to know now what the problem is, now that it's confirmed officially,. It was harder not knowing what was going on with my body the past 3 months. I am so thankful she has been watching my levels and monitroing everything, my old OB, was horrible, and she was actually a new OB I went to , and it was a bad exp from the get go...and now this...ugh! Anyway,...I am just thankful I can finally move forward soon. thanks for your thoughts, and prayers...means a lot guys!
Thinking of you both! I understand how you both are feeling, I really do, I have been there. Christina...try and stay positive hun, it's not over you know! I know..the meds, bring on a lot of side effects etc...and you can get very emotional too. Hang in there..okay, I am still thinking good thoughts for you. Trying...I am hoping your doing well also. I never tested either...was always too nervous to test. All the best to you both,...thinking of you guys...and praying for BFP's!!!! thanks again, will keep you posted! Hugs to you both!

 

trying4pg - July 17

Oh Blakey...I am so sorry...but it is goodthat you found out and your new OB seems to be rushing it for you. I had a hysteroscopy in April and it was a very minor surgery...it's actually just a video cam thing of your innards. I went to the hospital at 6am and was released by 11 am. They did put me under for the surger (and biopsy as I had a polyp) and it was all good...frankly I enjoyed the nap. They told me to take it easy for a few days and I did. I dripped for a while....like 10 days....and then my period came like 30 days later. When it came I was able to begin my IVF treatment. So...I think you should be set for late September/early October to renew your IVF efforts. Please ask me any questions you might have. Lots of hugs and prayers for you Blakey. Christina...how are you ....feeling any better. Please update us if you have time. I am thinking very positive thoughts for both of you.

 

Christina97 - July 18

Girls: checking in and promise to do personals later...I have been freaking out all morning because I had some brown spotting. Light cramps yesterday and the day before and with today I fear I am getting AF or something worse is going on. Though all the meds I am taking state that my period won't start until they take me off them, but I don't know. I have a call into my dr. ... I promise to write more later :)

 

trying4pg - July 18

Christina - I am so sorry about the spotting. What drugs are you taking and did you take a HPT this morning? Please let us know what is going on. I have been very crampy today too.

 

Christina97 - July 19

trying - I am on 800mgs of progesterone and I am taking 2mgs of Estrace 2x a day along with a baby aspirin and my prenatals. The spotting seems to have stopped and my dr. told me not to worry that its common and we'll know more on Monday. He said AF should not start until they take me off the meds, which they haven't. Still kind of achy down there so I am not sure what's going on, but I am not going to stress about it. I didn't do an HPT. I might do one Friday or Sunday though. We'll see!
Blakey - I am sorry you have to have the hysteroscopy, but it's kind of good that trying went through it and can support you! I am sure it's the final step so you can begin the road to IVf again. I'm praying it won't be rough on you and that you heal quickly :) Well ladies, it was a rough day all around (work - yuck!) and I can't seem to relax tonight, but I am trying. Just want the roller-coaster ride to be over.

 

Blakey - July 19

Hi guys-
Christina, sorry about the spotting, but as your Dr. said, I wouldn't worry to much about it right now. Spotting can be pretty common in the early stages, as well as cramping, so Hang in there. you are in my thoughts, and still praying you get that BFP! sorry you had a rough day, at work, and just all around. Feel better! and try to stay positive!
Hi Trying! Sorry you weren't feeling well. Cramping can honestly, be a good thing...so don't either one of you start giving up hope! Hang in there, and you need to continue to stay hopeful, and positive..you need to do this for your baby. The mindset is pretty powerful, so try and remember to stay positive,it does make a differnce. I am praying for you guys, your both in my thoughts.
As for me...thank you both! Trying, it is a relief to hear that the hysterscopy is pretty invasive. I do have my surgery date. It's for August 8th. My Re's office called me today with the details. I have to go in next week for a pre-op physical. Not sure what that entails. The nurse did reiterate what you had told me trying, that their is not cutting, or stitches, so I will be able to go back to work the next day, or resume my regular activiites, so it was nice to hear her confirm what you had already told me. (thanks)-
I am just anxious to put it behind me, so I can get my body back on track, functioning the way it should! Then i can move forward with my IVF/ICSI cycle.
thanks for your words of support too guys, means alot! take care of yourselves..okay! hang in there, chins up! :) big hugs to you both!

 

trying4pg - July 19

Hi girls...just wanted to let you know I got a BFP this morning. So despite the odds (and the reason for starting this thread) despite the cramps, the sadness, the emotionalness of the whole thing...it all seems to have worked out. I pray that you will get one too Christina....and that yours will only be a few short months away Blakey. All my thoughts are wih you. Super Baby Bombs.

 

trying4pg - July 19

Oh and I should say that i am a super-advocate for acupuncture....and Blakey...if you haven't done it yet...you should start 3 months before your IVF...so now is a fabulous time to begin...if you haven't already.

 

Christina97 - July 19

CONGRATULATIONS TRYING!!!!!! OMIGOSH - what a nice surprise this was for me this morning!!!! Did you have your beta yesterday or did you do an HPT? WOW - I am THRILLED for you and will certainly let you know what happens on Monday. Though I don't think I will be as lucky as you, I am happy to have had you on this journey :)

 

Blakey - July 19

OH MY GOSH, OH MY GOSH, OH MY GOSH!!!!!!!!!!!! YAY TRYING!!!!!!! WHEWHOO!!! sooooo excited for you!!!
I couln't bleive it when I read your post, I just said out loud...WOW, omigod!!! That is awesome news.!!!!! so, so, ecited for you! ishing you a wondeful, happy 9 months!!!! yes, we put ourselves through so much, we are so strong...but look at the wonderful gift at the end of it all!!! thinking of you sweetie, sending you big congrats hugs!

 

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