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535 posts on this thread and the last post was on February 27th, 2006 9:05 AM by Tracy
d - February 3rd, 2006 10:13 PM

Hey Lori, I have not heard from the dr. and I am not happy. If he doesn't call by monday i am going to call or just go into that office. I am getting unhappy.


CC - February 3rd, 2006 11:40 PM

Hi guys...I havent read any posts since I last posted...I just wanted to get a quick post in. The appointment was ok. I dont know. 6 hours later we were home, after about 2 1/2 there, another hour for lab work for both dh and I (they drew blood to test for hiv, and other things-did anyone have that done? They required it) and more time fighting traffic. I got home today and it all kind of sunk in, and instead of feeling excited, I feel really stressed out and down for some reason. To highlight a few things-the Dr doesnt really buy the whole PCOS thing. She says I dont need medication, I need to diet and have activity each day to loose weight..So much for the met/glucophage through her. I dont know what to think of that. They only do 3 cycles of IUI, and they do 2 each cycle back to back. If after 3 cycles we arent successful, then we would need to move to IVF. Hmmm. Dh has to give his third SA (thank God he isnt freaking out about it) with their own lab, as the last two he has done didnt test morphology and she wants to know that. He will do that Tuesday, and provided my insurance can authorize the meds, we will be a go for this month. I dont think we will make it, I am due to start AF Tue or Wed and I dont think my insurance will auth in time. We will be doing injectibles, not sure what kind until dh's sample comes back, and then a trigger shot for O. I am a little freaked about only being able to do 3 IUI's (6 total I guess if you count the 2nd IUI in a cycle)..Please forgive me, but what # are all of you on doing IUI ? It just doesnt seem like 3 is enough. She also said there is only a 10% chance w/ IUI ? Said IVF is 40%..how can there only be 10% ? I dont think I have ever heard it that low, and now am wondering if I misunderstood her (its on my new list of questions to ask next time that I have already started)..She also did a vaginal ultrasound to make sure I wasnt starting out w/ any cysts, etc. Seemed concerned that on the Clomid I only ever O'd from my right side, and thought the Clomid wasnt strong enough to make both sides work. I think I will be using Repronex now. I dont know what to think. Like I said, feeling really overwhelmed, and for some reason depressed. Already thinking about the "what if this doesnt work" scenario. Dh seems excited and really overwhelmed, so I havent shared my thoughts with him and dont want to ruin his positive and happy feeling. He was i in the room during the ultrasound and was a combination of totally freaked out to be seeing something like that, to excited..It was very sweet. I need attitude adjustment, and need to be postitive. I am a little put off about the PCOS and her stance. She total us straight off we both need to loose weight, and I knew she would, but I thought for sure I would walk away with meds for Metformin..Oh well. Dh just got home from getting us some dinner (its 8:30!) so I should go. Thanks for listening and reading. Any thoughts would be appreciated on what I have said. All I can say is that I am happy that I have you guys, I already knew so much that I have learned from all of you, I wasnt completely in the dark, and I had great questions! ( thanks everyone)...They also said once I am done w/ IUI I will start progesterone suppositories (sp) for t2 wks until bfp or bfn. I never thought to ask at the time, but why ? Ok, I have to go, dh is giving me the evil eye. I am so thankful for all of you..really, I am. You guys have no idea.


Tracy - February 4th, 2006 12:01 AM

CC- I got a good vibe from what you've told us. Call me crazy; I don't know. It's hard not to feel a little depressed when you are overwhelmed and scared at the same time. Let DH's positive energy rub off on you right now. Absorb the info over the next couple of days, and deal with the insurance company first thing on Monday (unless they are there on Saturdays). I am often disappointed when doctors don't give me the meds I expected, but end up appreciating the ones who don't. I like when the doctor up and decides to treat the problem, not mask it, or work with it. SPIRITS UP!!!!!!


Lori - February 4th, 2006 12:57 AM

CC - First of all 10% chance of pregnancy during a cycle isn't bad at all. Our RE only gave us 5% chance. Couples with no fertility problems only have a 20% chance during any given cycle. Having your husband's morphology checked is a very good idea. As far as the weight thing goes, I do have a concern with that because that is what my old RE from about 8 years ago kept harping on. And as a matter of fact, I weigh 20 lbs more today then I did back then and my new RE hasn't even mentioned weight!! I would definately question as to why she thinks that you do NOT have PCOS. As I am sure you know, there are several "markers" with regard to PCOS and weight is NOT the only symptom. Don't get me wrong, about the weight thing though... it is always good to maintain a healthy weight, but with PCOS and no meds, it can be a difficult thing to accomplish. As far as only doing 3 IUIs, I would ask if that is what they recommend, will you be re-evaluted after 3 IUIs and perhaps be able to continue with different meds, etc. My RE (from my understanding) bases IUIs on many factors and not just a number they will do. For example, we were told we should go right to IVF, but it was up to us if we wanted to try IUI. I asked, after the 3rd round, if it didn't work would we still be able to keep going with the IUIs... basically, it will ALWAYS be up to DH and I, how we proceed. The RE is just a "helper" in our decision making process. If I were you, I would not be discouraged at all about the 10% figure, though. And if nothing else, remember that with the injections your chance of producing more eggs increases therefore increasing your chances of having at least one fertilize during any given cycle.


EMM - February 4th, 2006 10:00 AM

Good Saturday morning everyone. I spent the day yesterday with my family sans computer. It was kind of nice to just hang out. We bought my son some golf clubs to play with, and he loved playing outside with them. It has been so mild here. Anyway, I read CC's post, and I am wondering what our outcome will be when we go on Monday to find out my husband's test results. My husband has so many health issues. I was telling him that it would be something if everything came back okay, and then I would have to be subjected to tons of tests. But it sounds like CC has something to get started with I guess. When I was reading it i also thought that only 3 IUIs was low. DH and I probably won't be able to afford IVF, and IUI will be our last hope if that is what it takes. We all are really lucky to have this thread. There is just so much knowledge right here. Oh, and about the weight thing. After I had my son my DH bought me a "dancing" videogame. You may have seen it. Tons of kids were loosing weight by playing it. You can set it on "weight loss" mode, and it will count how many calories that you are burning. It is pretty neat, and it works great for cardio. I like it better than an instructional video, and we can't afford to go to the gym. Just a suggestion. My mom got one, and then told my husband to pick me up one too. I will check back later ladies. I am gearing up to host a small Super Bowl party tomorrow. You know how it goes, gotta make sure that everything is clean.


Lynn - February 4th, 2006 10:02 AM

CC.....I am glad you got answers and even as long as I have been seeing an RE, I still walk away feeling like you did. Like Lori said...my RE suggests how many and then bottom line dh and I get to say yes or no. Both dh and I are overweight.....first RE said nothing about weight and never addressed my PCOS. In the middle of my ectopic, I changed RE's in the practice and he did my surgery. During my post-op, I questioned whether I had PCOS or not (nurse said during ultrasound, I did not have the "string" of pearls around my ovaries. During my surgery new RE checked it out and said YES, you are a classic case. I am overweight and cannot loose weight regularly, I have facial hair that I remove weekly (sometimes daily), my arms have more hair than my girlfriends, I do not ovulate on my own and can go months without a period (previous to bcp and fertility meds) and ect. My new RE did ask my to loose 20 pounds and began me on glucophage (which I am still on). In addition I joined weight watchers (and put hubby on it with me). To date, I have lost 19 pounds (21 until last weigh-in) and dh has lost 25 pounds. I encourage it, wait for a sale and then go. Look online, they advertise specials on weightwatchers.com. Last thing before I talk your ear off......I got pregnant on first cycle of follistim (injectable) and IUI (my RE only does 1 IUI each cycle) so the chance of it happening is GREAT. My only problem was egg implanted in tube instead of uterus. Do not loose hope....just think one cycle at a time and go with it. Maybe after you begin the process, RE will rethink her thoughts after a cycle. Best of luck and let us know what you will be doing this month. check back later.....


bump - February 4th, 2006 12:29 PM

bump...bump


CC - February 4th, 2006 1:52 PM

Thanks everyone for all your words and calming thoughts. I needed that! Had dreams last night of babies, miscarriages, and lots of weird things. Yuck. Lori your post really made sense to me, and after reading it I thought about it, and she did say in the end, it was all our decision as to what we wanted to do. She just said that IUI was sort of like Clomid, in that if its going to work, its going to work the first few times. I dont know if thats true or not. Lynn, I had forgotten that you got pregnant your 1st cycle. I am just still feeling overwhelmed and like EMM said, I feel like IUI is our last hope, dont know if we will ever do IVF. At this point I dont think we will, but talk to me after I have a lot of failed IUI's and I may change my mind. I feel like everything is happening really fast, and while I am thankful for that, I am scared that the dream will end just that fast. Why I am so negative ? Lynn, thanks for the great advice about thinking about it one cycle at a time. Its really what I need to do. I was thinking last night..I waited all this time to see the RE, and be referred out, and now that I have been, the waiting starts again. This whole entire process is really a lot of frustrating waiting..
Anyway-jcr, I hope your sore bbs is a good sign. I pray one of you gets a bfp this month. Lulu-men are just like that sometimes. I think this is important to my dh, but not as important as it is to me in the end. We are the ones going through the day to day stuff and I really think they dont understand the magnitude of how much time it takes up of our daily lives. I know there was a question about dh and having to do the deed for IUI in the office or out..I was told what everyone has already said, they can do it where ever they want, as long as it gets there w/in a hour. My dh will be doing his sa there again next week, and whenever we start IUI's, he will be doing "it" there as well since we live about a hour away. I dont know how that will be, I almost laugh at the thought at all of us waiting for him to finish so we can get the IUI started. Talk about pressure for them!
I am spending the day with my 8 month pregnant girlfriend so I have got to go. Thank you again, you all have really helped me so much over the past few months. After seeing the RE, it made me really thankful for you all...Have a good day, will chk in later.


Lynn - February 4th, 2006 3:23 PM

CC.....I was afraid when dh had to give his sample at the clinic is would be a no. But then he said..."go figure, we are not the only people here trying to get help and all these other guys had to do this so I can to". I will say it was funny when he came out...he informed me they really needed to get better movies and magazines (I almost lost it). He will be fine and and y'all will do great when you have to begin this.


EMM - February 4th, 2006 4:41 PM

Lynn-my DH came out of the room complaining that their VCR was broken, and that they also needed better magazines. He said 1 of the mags in there was "Over 50." It was kind of amusing to see him come out with his hair a little ruffled, I must say.


Tracy - February 4th, 2006 5:19 PM

Hey girls, how's it going? Just got home from work. It was a busy day today. I know this is way too much info BUT..... while I was at work, I told my boss I had to go to take an emergency bathroom break because it was so wet down there, I thought AF started or I peed my freakin pants. Well, I get in there and I had tons of creamy cm. Why did I share this with you, you ask? I don't know, I just thought this might have happened to someone else while on clomid or something. I had a good amount of cm last cycle, but not like today's!!!!!! I also had a stress dream last night about school. I couldn't find anything to wear and was running late, then I was stressed because I had no lesson plans done and noone to borrow work ideas from. Then some moron parent wanted to buy a stupid halloween candle and I had way more important things to do besides sell the candle to him. Woah!!!!!! Why am I still dreaming about school? Glad to hear everyone is doing well today.


Lori - February 4th, 2006 7:59 PM

Tracy - Your cm sounds like a good sign!! I never have much cm no matter with or without clomid. CC & EMM - I am with you when it comes to IVF, DH and I just can not afford it. It's kind of sad though because the RE gave us a 70% chance of success with it. I was telling my friend that I would need to hold a telethon to raise the money, lol. Lynn - my DH has "performance anxiety" as it is when it comes time to do the IUIs, he says he wouldn't be able to do the "deed" in the office. Heck, it gives me so much anxiety because I am so worried that he won't be able to get the job done for the IUI, and that is with us being at home. CC - I just have a good feeling about the IUIs working for you, don't ask me why, I just do. JCR, Lulu and D - how are you gals doing??? Take care everybody!!


Tracy - February 5th, 2006 7:47 AM

Happy Superbowl Sunday ladies. Well, AF is probably on her way. The color of my abundant cm this morning is the lightest shade of pink. I expected AF late this month; not until about Friday, but I usually spot a couple days before hand, so perhaps she will come on time. CD28 will be Tuesday, which is normal for me. My boobs stopped hurting last month 4 days before AF showed and this month they have more or less stopped hurting within the last two days. That would seem about right. There is nothing I can do to stop her, and we did everything right this time (again), so all I can say is HSG here I come. This will be my last cycle of clomid before moving on to something else as per doctor's orders. Going to have breakfast with the in-laws (love them). Check in later. Have a great day.


EMM - February 5th, 2006 9:43 AM

Good morning everyone. I took another HPT this morning since AF is due tomorrow. Another BFN. So I expect her promptly tomorrow evening. Maybe she'll show up during DH's appointment and I will have a meltdown during the visit. Just kidding. I am sure crying in front of a urologist won't help us any. On to the next month then. February is a nice month for love! Too bad my ovulation isn't supposed to fall on V-day.


Lynn - February 5th, 2006 10:03 AM

Happy Sunday..... Not much to share today. I have no signs (maybe that is because I know it was going to be a serious miracle) and I am really not looking for any. I am really just wanting AF to show so I can see if my left side is making any eggs. I was also told I would have great success with IVF. I thought it might be a possibility until my insurance refuses to cover meds if done with IVF or IUI's anymore. I had hope I could get help with drugs and then it would be about $5,000.00 for the rest (which I could have borrowed) but not now. I guess that is why I am giving myself a limit and moving on. Anyway...I feel a little down so do not want to bring you girls down...going grocery shopping so I'll check back later.


Lori - February 5th, 2006 10:52 AM

Good morning ladies!! Sorry to hear that nobody thinks they have good news to report. I am pretty much right there with you all. But, we still must remain patient. It isn't over till you know who shows up. And, not to give anybody false hope... remember that a lot of women spot and or have light periods and are still pregnant. I still really have no signs of anything... a BFP or a visit from AF. Tomorrow will be 16 days past the HcG shot but 2 days before AF is due. Getting antsy to test and get it over with.... but scared because I know that I will see a negative. AAARRRGGHHH!!! Well, that just about sums up how I am feeling today.


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