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hi - me again, i'm julie and i had a m/c in early march 07 -- and got AF back soon after - so i TTC this month - and am now sitting in the 2WW - a little scared - am i PG? if i am, will i have a healthy pg this time around? maybe i am not PG this month - will i be able to get pg again (after my m/c maybe things changed?) the 2WW maddness is just that - maddness. you question every twinge or slight sore / tenderness in the bbs - is it AF? or am i pg? i am trying to stay positive - and think that just maybe there is already a little baby in there dividing its cells to become a little person! i know there are a few of us looking for this thread - i hope you find us! i'll check back soon. (trying4pg - porcupines huh??!?!) and CCB - i am not on the progesterone suppositories YET - but as soon as i get a bfp my doc says that day i will get them. are you on them? -- pba - i hope you find us and join in too! hoping4PG & mak -- hope to see you here as well!)

Hi Julie -- it's kind of a dull day for me so yes I found you. I'm happy to be here...sotospeak. Did you go for a "pre-conception" appointment with your doctor? I'm trying to find a new doctor and since I've had 2 m/c I think it might be a good idea, but my gal friends say no. Of course, none of them have ever had a m/c so they don't understand my urgency of reassurance. Julie -- if you don't mind me asking, how far along were you in March? I'm so sorry for your loss, but will keep my fingers crossed that this time will be the one. Since I teach, I will be trying after my May cycle...which should put me due around the end of the school year. I am switching schools, so I dont' want to teach for a quarter and then be off ... I feel like I need to earn my time there. But, I am in my 30's so my dh and I are anxious to have little ones. I'm rambling now...so I'll check back later on.

HI PBS - Jules - nothing much is happening here either. I am contemplating going to a movie. And yes Julie - porcupines...you would be amazed at how slow those things move...I chased one into a tree very slowly (I was keeping my distance). It's no wonder God gave them such a good defense system??? Anyways, I think you should clean something that you have been dreading. I say make a really good project of it. That's always good to keep me busy. (Oh, but you have to do it with loud music blaring, otherwise the brain starts to go all "analyzie" on you.) Just a thought. PBA - I don't know much about home remedies, but something I heard the other day (and I meant to tell you this Julie) is that baby aspirin is recommended for ensuring that there is no clotting, which has been linked to m/c's. I don't know - I try to refrain from home cures just because I would hate to screw up my body by doing something stupid. I tend to listen to my docs and trust them. I guess PBA the big thing to ask yourself re: doc switching is whether your doc took EXTRA precautions before m/c #2 - if not - I think that you might want to look some more...don't ya think Julie??? There are things you can do to help prevent m/c just make sure you are taking every opportunity you can. Anyways, gotta fly for now. I will check in again later! Oh PBA - I am studying to be a teacher right now...and you and I should be TTC about the same time...I think. Later!

hi ladies -
PBA - i went to school for elementary education - and now i work for mercedes benz - not really what i "trained" for. but anyway. i was 11w in mar when i lost my little girl - i had a HB at 7+ w and nothing at the 10w check - and the doc wanted me to wait a week to come back for an u/s incase things "starightened themselves out" -- i was so upset. i had to have a d&c a week later and i had the tests done & was told all was ok and that it was a "fluke" of nature ------- not really something i like to hear from a medical professional - the term "fluke " of nature. . . but that is what they said. but i totally understand you wanting to get thru the school year 1st. - do you mind sharing some of the info on your 2 m/c's? when? how far along? any testing? how are you feeling now? -- trying4pg - my porcupine chaser! you are cracking me up!! i can only imagine when you are a full 9 months prego (sooner rather than later!!) out there chasing porcupines into trees!! (do you make loud noises to scare them or something?) and don't they shoot quills when they are afraid? do you wear a suit of armor?? how are you feeling? -- i tried the cleaning stuff - i HATE cleaning. so i bailed. got thru 1 whole room from baseboards to ceilings though. i want to do something fun today - when my dd wakes from her nap. maybe the park or something. *oh and i have heard of the baby asprin & asked my RE about it - when i was there. she said NO NO NO for me.... as i do not have a clotting issue (and it does thin the blood) so she didn't want me using it at all -- again this is just for me personally. she did load me up on folic acid though, in addition to the prenatal. and i am now off green tea. ok going to go water the garden - talk to you soon -

Thanks Trying4pg - I am reluctant to try anything until I hear from people who have had success stories...even still, I know everyone is different, so it may not have the same effect. I bought baby aspirin after my second m/c in Feb, but it is still sealed. Too nervous to try anything until I know what has caused my m/c. Julie - I got pregnant the first month we started to try...September. Heard the heartbeat at 6 wk and everything was great. Three weeks later, I started cramping real bad and knew something wasn't right. I went in to have and my doctor confirm that I had lost the pregnancy. My doctor was very nonchalant about th m/cs - I can only presume b/c she sees a lot and it is "no big deal" to hear. She gave me th same line that these things happen and it's mother natures way of taking care of it. She had no empathy at all. I had a D&C Nov. 17 and AF showed up exactly 28 days later. I then found out on Valentines Day that I was pregnant again...I was only a few days late. I took two HPT and both were positive. the following week I had a really disturbing dream that I saw a pool of blood. I got up the next morning and took my last HPT just to ease my mind and it was negative. I went that day and they said it was a "chemical pregnancy"...had I not taken a HPT I would have never known. My doctor was "too busy" that day to see me, so she referred me to another doctor in their office. I just don't feel like I'm getting cared for with her. It stinks b/c there are 8 people at my school pregnant this year and I should have been one of them...but I've come to terms with it. The really hard part about the m/cs was that no one in my family and none of my friends have ever experienced it, so I was alone in the process. My dh handles things way differently than I and after the D&C, he dropped me off at home and went back to work. I was miserable for six weeks after. I just dont' want a repeat. I am convinced that the stress I was under caused it and I am underweight, but the second doctor I went to said stress does not cause m/cs. I just really want to find a doctor that will know what to do to help me have a healthy pregnancy. It's scary and I don't want history to repeat itself. Julie - was this your first m/c? My doctor said they won't test until I've had 3 m/c and they are only counting my second one b/c they gave me the Rhogam for being RH -. It was a precaution I guess. I don't know if I'm supposed to demand tests be done or what. Any info from anyone would be helpful.

hi pba - my dh handels things WAY different than i do too - infact he didn't even take me to my d&c my closest girlfriend out here did. i am still hurt by the lack of empathy he showed. we wenet thru some grief counseling suggested by my OB, it didn't help that much - she just wanted to make sure i wasn't suicidal (i wasn't --- just sad) and that i knew everyone grieves in their own way (dh diff from me) - all of which was already known. anyhow, i am trying to focus on the positives of life now and goign to try to not look back at that anymore. but if you have any questions - please feel free to ask. as for your doc - hmmm. . . i'd be hard pressed to stay - i think i'd be finding someone new - someone with some bedside manor. my ob was very good during my loss - my surgeon however was very matter of factly about the whole thing (the loss and the procedure) - so i hope not to have to see her again. but she did her job and did it right -- so i have to be thankful for that. i got AF back after only 25 days - so this month i am not sure when to expect her to return (if i am not PG). which is a big IF> as -- we were all sick (the whole family) during peak O time and only got to do it day 1 of "peak" but not the 2nd day it said "peak" -- and the night after that. so if one of those swimmers got up in there and did it's job - then i won't be complaining about that either! ha ha but i am a little afraid of being pregnant again - i too don't want to go thru the m/c nightmare again. PBA i assume you are in the usa? -- see if you can get a referral from your insurance or maybe one of your pregnant friends at work that likes their OB. i'd definitely look around. *Oh and yes - i did do a preconception appt before i got PG with the angel baby i lost. see if you can do that with a new doc. GL!

Hey Julie -- Yep I'm in FL. I was seeing the same doc as my friends and they love her, but none of them had a m/c so they didn't see her in the same light I did. Staying positive is truly key. I believe things happen for a reason and this has made me much stronger. In the beginning I really felt as though I was being punished b/c I haven't spoken with my mother in three years...well, she hasn't spoken to me. I'm past that now and know that what will be will be. DH is home now, so I'll talk to everyone tomorrow.

I hope nobody minds a newbie. I saw the post for "buddies wanted" and I am desperately searching for people I can talk to about my issues. I have never had an mc...but I have also never been pg. My husband and I have been together for 10 years...married for almost 4 of them. I finally went to a RE after talking to my doctor. I figured something must have been wrong with me or my dh because, although only ttc for about 1 1/2 years at the time, we never had protected sex. Yeah, I was on bc for years, but went off in Jan 03. So, I figured something must have been up. My RE said that my "environment" kills my dh's little swimmers. So, we started IUI. Nothing was working. So, we did all of the steps and still nothing was showing up as "wrong". I had my laparscopy and hysteroscopy (sp?) this past Wed. Come to find out everything inside was fine...it was all outside. Tons of adhesions, right tube wrapped around right ovary, etc. So, all was cleaned up. Next IUI (and post-op) scheduled for May 7. I am keeping my fingers crossed. Not that I am a superstitious person, but I am thinking luck is on my side this time because, and I know this sounds so dumb, I found 3 4-leaf clovers...one Fri, one Sat, and one today...all just were there. This is not something I look for. Was just out back and poof...there they were. So, I am thinking that maybe this is a sign that this time is the one. I too teach, so this would be perfect timing. Not that I am in the same boat as you, PBA, with the new school deal...but I really don't want to take TONS of time off...it is so much more work than just being there. Not that that is a problem...I will do whatever I have to to be pg. My RE has not put me on anything other than prenatal vitamins...which I have to say I am horrible at remembering to take. Which I shouldn't be because I am trying so hard. I know...I am babbling. But, one last thing...I am so glad I found this forum. It is so nice to know that other people like me are out there. I get so tired of having my friends/colleagues/family tell me that "it'll all work out" or crap because they have never been in this situation. And, I hate to say it, but I have come to resent going to baby showers because everyone I have gone to it is like, "Oops...we're pg". And here my dh and I are trying so hard and nothing has happened yet. Okay...done ranting on about that. Sorry...had to get it off of my chest. I look forward to talking to others! :) Baby dust to all!

This sounds good - I hope newbies are welcome. I will check back.

Hi ladies... pba and erika - I am from the previous thread.. the story on me is, Im 29 (actually as of yesterday) and I have had two m/c, both 7 to 8 years ago. My dh and I were married 3.5 years ago and we have been trying for a baby ever since. I have gone though 6 rounds of Clomid, off and on for about 2 years, as they had very bad side effects on me. I am now on my hopefully only cycle of follistem and ovidrell injectables. I am 8 dpo and have a pt scheduled for may 8.... I dont know if i can make it.. he he ... It has been such a long time since I have been able to hope. even with the clomid I never o ed so I wouldnt get a period. so this is new... to have to worry a about af... well... hope to hear good news from all of us soon... who else is in the 2ww?

Hi, my name is Jenna. I'm 29 years old. My dh doesn't produce sperm so we are using a donor. I had my first IUI April18th. Ever since last Thursday I've had really light bleeding but today it has been l little heavier, not much though. I went in this am for my p-test, now I'm just waiting for the phone call. I told my nurse about the spotting and she didn't seem to be worried so I'm trying not to be either. These past 2 wks. have been hard. I went back and forth thinking I was and wasn't pg. My dh is being very optimist. I'm afraid to get my hopes up.....but deep down I know I have. Today I have to wonder if AF is starting. I usually cramp really bad, no cramping yet though. However, since Thursday I have had light cramping in the am but it goes away after a few hours. Sorr, I've rambled on so much, it just feels good to get it all out. Thx. for listening you guys!

HAPPY BIRTHDAY CCB!!!! i am 9dpo today - and getting the "urge" - to test that is! ccb are you going in for a serum blood pg test on the 8th? will you home test before that? how are you feeling? any signs othern than no cramps? i have nothing. but i am remainin positive - this could be my month. welcome erika62897, kms1 & Jennacat. i am so glad you guys joined us! erika - things are sounding pretty "lucky " in your part of the world! i could use a 4 leaf clover this week!! not too long till your IUI - that must be exciting! PBA --- i used to live in FL - and we are going there in 10 days. i can't wait!!! where abouts are you? (i lived in pembroke pines / miami and we are going to disneyworld! if you are near disney pls send some shopping tips!) i hope you realize you are not being punished for anything - be it your mom or something else - you will get your baby - it is all timing. stay positive. and perhaps you could ask your insurance company for a referral to a new doc (or check the internet) for someone in your area who has familiarity in dealing with fertility issues. or maybe your OB / gyn could refer you to an RE? --- jenna - welcome to the 2ww - i am glad you me and CCB are waiting together. how many days past IUI are you? and when will you test? do you feel any "different"? -- trying4 -- how are you today? welcome to anyone else who wants to join in.

well since this is the last day of the month - i will look toward MAY - and say this could be the month for BFP's for all of us!

Welcome Erika and kms! Erika...I am with you on the baby shower thing. I'm the last in my circle for everything...marriage, house, children, and no one really understands the heartbreak when they announce they will have a child and you've been trying for a long time. STay with us and we'll help you through your days - good or bad. HAPPY Belated Birthday CCB! I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you during this 2ww. Jennacat - that could be a good sign that you aren't having heavy cramping. I certainly hope so. Julie - I'm from the WPB area. I wish I could send you some shopping tips, but I depise shopping. LOL...I know; it's ridiculous. My dh on the other hand LOVES to shop and so he usually goes and buys me clothes or shoes - some I think are the ugliest I've ever seen, but everyone likes them. I guess my taste is all in my mouth. I do love to shop for my house - cookware, vases, etc...but not clothing. Trying4 - where are you? Hope you're having a good day! It's back to work for me.

Happy belated b-day, ccb. Hi everyone. Okay...I just really reread my rant on the baby shower thing...it sounded horrible. I really didn't mean it that way. It's just that this past weekend I went to a baby shower of a friend who didn't want to get pg, considered abortion, and was "talked in" to keeping it, and has just now embraced motherhood. That just got me a little depressed/mad/upset. I just needed a moment to get that off my chest. But...I am feeling that this is my month. After the lap/hyst., I feel that my problem has been solved. It was so frustrating to have no answers as to "why not" other than my "killer instinct" as I have been calling it. So, as silly as it sounds, I was so relieved to know that I had the adhesions and tube-wrapping...it makes me feel so much better to know that there was a reason...not just "i don't know". So...that and my silly clover luck...I am keeping my positive thinking up for May. So here is a silly question...I am supposed to chaperone a trip to the local amusement park (Busch Gardens)...is this really a wise idea? Should I play it safe and not go? Because I will be tempted to ride all of the rides...is that really the best thing? Any advice is welcome!

Erika - you may have already stated this, but are you a teacher? I only ask b/c my 8th grade class will be taking their field trip to BGardens later this month. I'm not a theme park person at all so I don't know if I'll be chaperoning or not.