2ww No More...Part 1
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pmblake - March 6

Lovemy3 - Stay positive! All of my pregnancies have literally been miracles (the last 5 w/ medical intervention) but nonetheless, it can happen. Just be positive. and I noticed about your bding schedule. Relax! Did you read where I only bd'ed one time before O and then the day after? I know it's hard to pinpoint it, but it's amazing to me that it worked!! My dr. said there's so many couples or just over do it! The husbands sperm count drops way before O day and even though he can still "shoot" it out he's basically shooting blanks. Just the stuff that holds the swimmers in.. but there are no swimmers. Think about it. It worked for me. Whether this pregnancy stays w/ me of not - less is definitely more!!!

 

lovemy3 - March 6

JB...Checked out your Space. Thanks for sharing it with us...you can see the kindness in your eyes and you are a beautiful lady! Hope you are feeling well. hugs.

 

lovemy3 - March 6

Thanks pam, We must have crossed lines. Thanks. But how do you know when to bd for sure then? I feel like its a vicious circle of around and around but never getting it right. Argh! Thanks for the cheer up.

 

pmblake - March 6

Hi Lovemy3, Well for me we waited to bd until about 32 hours after my trigger shot (which for you a trigger shot would be equivilent to a + OPK). We waited 32 hrs to be exact. I tend to O on the later side of the shot...so for you -- the first day you see a positive OPK - wait.... wait 24 hours or more and then bd... just once! that's all it takes. And then maybe one more time the next day. that would give you a total of 2 times but your husbands sperm would be ripe and ready (so to speak ;) It sounds like we have a pretty similiar cycle. long and late ovulation. It's worth a shot. If you choose to try this technique - you'll need to continue w/ OPKs. What Cd are you on now? 8 or so? when would you O and do have OPKs? I think you said they're very expensive in Canada. I order from ept http://www.early-pregnancy-
tests.com/pacof3ovtess.html
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Could those be delivered to Canada? You would probably want to use 3 or more a day around O time to catch the beginning of your surge.

 

pmblake - March 6

JB you're beautiful!!! You and your husband are such a beautiful couple! Where were the "should be a postcard" pictures from ???

 

lovemy3 - March 7

Pam, we have been doing all the bding prior too ovulation and then the day of positive OPk and then the next day. I ordered them once from tyhe same place as you but they took 1 month too get here. You get 5 in a pack for $50.00 here. Expensive huh? I think so, for just 5. I am cd7 today, they'd never make it ontime for this month. I'll have to see. I was thinking just bd every other day for a month and see what happens, but you think the sperm would be low by cd20 or so? Thanks.

 

pmblake - March 7

oh yeah...let's ask Linds tomorrow. but would say that your husband's tank has run dry b/c of all the bding before O. Just hold off! Wait until a really good + and just start counting ahead from there. Start at 24 hours and then again at 48 or so. Let' s triple check this w/ Linds, but I would definitely say that our schedules are fairly close. Maybe have sex the week before you think you would O just to give your husband a chance to rebuild w/ good guys. Don't want them in there too long.. let him "expel!" and then let him rebuild his supply. My dr. was adement about not have sex several days before my trigger. wasted he called it. How long would it take OPKs from me to get to you? I have 9 strips that I would be more than happy to drop in the mail to you.

 

mother2Bsoon - March 7

Hi Ladies! So PMB- are you saying that when I get a +opk, I should wait 24 hours before bedding? This last time, I got a positive opk and I waited until that evening (I wanted to plan something exciting for dh). So, you are saying I should wait the full 12 to 24 hours? Maybe wait the entire 24? Is that from the time I receive the +opk?

 

pmblake - March 7

Oh No M2B. I'm not saying that everyone should follow that rule... Lovemy3 and I seem to have a similar O and AF schedule so I was suggesting that she try what I did this past month. You need to follow your Drs. protocol. Don't be afraid to ask him when you should bd. I asked my dr flat out, followed his instruction and was fortunate enough to get pregnant. Is your Dr. following up on when you actually Oed? In hindsight I think I should've had O followups all along. I always assumed that I O'ed 12-48 hours after + OPK when in fact I wasn't Oing until later... 48-50 hours. I was using up all of my husband swimmers way too soon! Make sense?

 

angelkitty - March 7

Good morning ladies!!! JB you are beautiful - you and your DH look like the perfect pair. You know how some couples just look like they belong - you guys totally do. How are you feeling? Any symptoms yet? i still have not had any morning sickness yet - well I have had the nausea but not the vomiting. Boobs are still so sore. Not all the time but most times. I feel better when I keep my bra on. OK ladies let me tell you about my trauma and drama at my obgyn's office yesterday. MY RE does not keep the Rhogam shot on hand at his clinic so I had to go to my obgyn. They called the order yesterday at 10:00am. I get there at 2:00. After waiting for 40 minutes they tell me they are sending me down the street to do a progesterone test (United Healthcare took the lab they use out of network). I was like no I am here for a Rhogam shot. They asked why. Igot mad and I was like b/c I am rh negative and pregnant and I had some bleeding last night. Then they are all confused. They are like we have to get someone to call this order in. I told them my RE's office did call it in. It has been over an hour at this point. I am mad, frustrated, upset, very hormonal. I call my RE and talk to the nurse that called in the order and she got mad and called the obgyn office. They told her that my order must have been put with someone else's chart!!!!! She really got mad then. She called me back and told me someone should be in immediately to give me the shot. I told the nurse that gave me the shot that would be my last visit to them. Sh apologized and said they were just running behind today to which I replied back I have never been in this office that you guys were not running an hour or so behind. I have never been in there that I did not have to wait for an hour or longer for my appts. Is this normal for you ladies? I know there is usually a wait but is it always an hour or longer? it was not with my obgyn in my hometown. Sometimes there was a wait if he was behind but not usually. It must be the hormones b/c I usually never react like that. I am usually more patient but not yesterday. I have had no bleeding at all since the night that dh and I bd. I think that was the problem. I am excited about my scan tomorrow. Linds, I love the name of the new thread.

 

TTC#3@35 - March 7

OK!! I got my +opk this morning & jumped in my bed on my belly & was ready & ohhhh my soon to be dh already was at work.. haha.. Any suggestions as to what to do later?.. we have been bding for the last 6 days in a row & some more than twice a day . so right now he probably has no dna left? should I wait til tomorrow & abstain tonight.??

congrats pmblake on your level & probably no IUI for us.. My dr said that since my soon to be dh is paraplegic that his sperm wouldnt be strong enough to travel & break thru the egg so might as well start with ivf.. BUT we have found he is much different from what all the tests show for a paraplegic should be.. he has much or motility, morphology, etc than a person in his condition usually does so who knows..

 

TTC#3@35 - March 7

LM3 welcome back - glad to see you here.. All along im thinking the more the merrier & probably too late for me this cycle too because of all the bding we do before hand.
angelkitty - stuff like that drives me insance.. I totally understand your frustration. good luck tomorrow for your scan

jb - ill have to check lane bryant.. my soon to be mil works there so ill see if i can get a discount!!.. i just wish they were alittle skimpier but held just as well as these huge things i wear..

 

linds99 - March 7

Aww Pam! Congratulations! What a great number too! So Thursday lets see about 150 hcg or so? I'm happy for you!!As for the baby dancing and ovulation sticks, I would say that Pam's correct in her thinking. My clinic has the same rationale too. The LH detected by the sticks heightens/darkens and you can expect ovulation to occur within 24-36 hours there-after...so the luteinizing hormone is ripening the egg to release. (HCG shot actually assists the LH hormone inthe final ripening stage for the release). Now, if you are older, and LH levels begin to increase with the FSH levels, your ovulation becomes compromised. So lovemy3, I think you did have an ovulatory cycle the last time, but maybe your LH levels were lutenizing an egg too long, which actually degrades the development of the egg and compromises the release of it...either not releasing it at all OR releasing it too late when the egg is over-ripened. Does that make sense? I've also been researching the DHSEA hormone in women with PCOS (which is mainly a male hormone.) Have you ever gotten your tested before (I think you said you did?) Were yours high?DHSEA levels actually lower as women age, ovulate less, etc....I read in a study that women with PCOS actually have high DHSEA (produce too many eggs). I bring this up though, not because you have PCOS, but maybe your DHSEA levels need a kick up or maybe they are too high, which metformin can lower them, if that is the case.

 

linds99 - March 7

TTC#3, those doctors that automatically tell you to go to IVF are just conveniently lumping your DH in the "norm for what would be a parapalegic's sperm sample." So I say you are correct in your thinking that based on what was seen with HIS morphology and motility results, he is not the norm...he is normal. Am I correct to surmise that a parapalegic's motility and morphology are seen to be lower because of the lack of mobility and sedatary lifestyle that could cause his penis to sustain higher temperature levels at longer rates of time? Or is it the circulation issue? Because I tend to think if a man, regardless of being a parapalegic, can get an erection, then his circulation is optimal? Right? I think that if his semen results were that normal, (and you have no problems) there should be noooo rush to IVF like the doctor indicated. But that is my opinion. I think you guys have a good shot! Maybe last night's behind the moon dance will prove successful!! :)

 

linds99 - March 7

angelkitty, glad your mind is in a good spot...I really think you are gonna be ok, and everything will be smooth from here on after. You have a rare blood type, have you or do you give blood often? I know that your blood type is very much in demand.

 

pmblake - March 7

Hey Linds! Good morning everyone! My level was really 79... okay not much but every little bit counts right?? My pregnancy stick came up instantly and darker today so I feel certain that it's rising... time will tell. I wanted to mention something that's really sad... and has me worried. The day I conceived was Thursday 2 weeks ago. That is the same day we put our old dog down. My husband said last nite in a very touching moment that he knew God would do this for us... We took a life so we received a life. I'm not a super religious woman but I do go to church regularly and I do believe in God... I just have to believe that He will make this happen for us. We also decided laying in there in the dark, that if we had a boy we'd name him Dixon (after Dixie our dog). Okay am I a mush or what. Just when a man has a moment like that it's so touching.

 

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