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Hello Ladies... I am in the same boat. I just had my first IUI on the 10th and I am not a patient person. My DH and I have been TTC for a long time. He has low sperm count. Just recently we went to see an RE and I did all the tests. I do tend to Ovulate later on in my cylce. This month I used Tamoxafin which is just like Clomid but they said was better for the lining. I had the ovridel shot and then did the IUI. I can't go to take the beta until the 24th. I don't know if I can wait that long. I really want to take a HPT but I have heard that since I had the ovridel it might give me a false reading. Anyone going through the same thing??? How do you all survive the 2WW? Help please!!!

Hi Cooper, what is tamoxofin? Is this a new drug? What day did you ovulate on and when did the doctor give it to you? I've been through so many 2ww that seriously, you never really learn how to "make it better" it is really terrifying and suspenseful and hellish. But good luck to you...

Hi Linds99, I actually had the wrong spelling of the drug that my RE gave me. It is tamoxifen. They actually prescribe that to women who might be at risk for breast cancer. My RE did tell me that it is better for the lining with less side effects than what clomid would give me. I really want this to work for me. My DH can't wait to be a dad. Not that I can wait to be a mom. My RE said that if this didn't work for us that we would move on to injectibles for the next cycle. I have the Clear Blue Easy Monitor and I had 2 bars on the 11/8 which was CD 15 for me. I went in for an US and he saw 1 follicle that was about 17.5mm. I got the ovridel shot around 8AM on 11/9 and then at 2PM I had my IUI. DH's count was 22M. RE said it was good. I do feel like I have some cramping but don't know if that is from stress or just possibly PMS. I have to wait 7 more days. What do you think the chances are that I would have a BFP if I did a HPT from Response. I am just thinking that the HCG shot that I got to induce ovulation will still be in my system. Don't want to see a false positive and then have it not be true. I don't want to get DH's hopes up either. Especially considering my MIL is so opinionated. Not to mention I am somewhat worried about the stress from the holidays. Already drama has ensued. Thanks for listening to me go on and on!!! Any advice from your past experiences would be great!

thanks for the support ladies. it is 13DPO, and CD25 and still no AF, even with the BFN, so i'll just keep testing everyday until AF comes. who knows. but at least know i got my BFN cry out of the way and if i get another one all weekend, at least i am prepared now for it. Linds- can you provide info on the shared risk program? i'll definitely talk it over with the hubby and the RE. We aren't poor by any means, and have some money in savings plus a ton in 401k to borrow against, but we are also trying to financially responsible and pay off some credit cards. My parents offered to help anyway they can and they make a lot less than hubby and me. they offered to hit up my grandpa for inheritance money, which they will be getting at some point anyways. i don't know how he would feel knowing it was for IVF though, as he is strict, conservative baptist and i am afraid he might think it is unnatural or something. who knows. but we might start considering it, so i guess i will start reading up. My RE is one of the best in the US, and has done tons of IVFs, so i would be in good care. i respond well and make lots of eggs, so maybe IVF is the way to go. anyways- thanks again for the encouragement and i'll keep you posted if things change.

I'm not sure about the share risk program at your clinic, but I would definitely ask if your clinic offers it and the information about it. Do it now so that you get all the money issues and worries behind you. I just believe that if it was going to happen for you, or for me for that matter (trying for over a year) it would have happened already (And I was like you, I responded great on Clomid developing 5 good follies each time.) So that is why I am so "realistic" about the whole ttc thing and moving on to more aggressive alternatives sooner rather than later because we have already wasted too many months. It is like let's get the show on the road already! I felt like everytime I went to the clinic, another woman, who was there on their first try with drugs, IUI, got pregnant and I had to hear the screams and joy, and the nurses would just look at me like Oh dear, what is wrong, why isn't this happening for you, you developed the same number of follies. Seriously, something else must be up and I want to find out what the heck it is! Did you know sometimes the only problem is that the woman's shell is too hard for the sperm to penetrate, but they would never know that was the issue if they didn't do IVF to figure out. I feel bad for all the other infertile woman in the past that didn't have the options we have today...our dreams can come true, we just need a little more help to get them achieved.

Hey everyone, Hang in there Tink, keep testing till af arrives. Nothing to report here, just waitin it out. I am getting alot of cm now and I can't remember if I had that with my other kids. Anybody know if that is a good sign or a bad sign? Hope yuo all have a good night.

well another BFN today. it is 14DPO, when you would think i would get a positive result if i was prego. but no go. no AF either. i am irregular though, she could come next week, i never know. she came on CD25 last month which was really early for me. Today is CD26. i am still beatdown and depressed, but did talk to DH about trying IVF. Linds thanks for the info. i know my RE had a sign that said financing available, so maybe we will look into that. My DH hates financing anything, other than the car and house. he pays cash for everything- furniture etc. If we can't afford it then, we save up and pay cash. so he probably wants to do the same here. so that might set me back a few months to save up some. The RE does have a credit from the first 2 IUIs i did- which hopefully should be about $800, but that's barely a dip in the amnt an IVF will probably cost with him--i am guessing $8k- $12k? who knows. i need to find out cost from him before we move on and make a decision. should i call him today and tell them about my BFN? or wait til i get AF? I'd like to schedule a consult to discuss next steps asap so i might call and see what they want me to do

The doctor will likely do a pregnancy test on you anyway, despite your negative pee stick to cover his ass. But I would call and make an appointment to actually talk to the doctor about IVF today, do it for next week, then he will give you the green light to go to IVF (which I think is necessary at this point). That way they have time to order meds, figure out money, etc., schedule a teach for syringes. They won't take your blood after that until cycle day 21 (after ovulation is projected) so you will get your period, maybe this weekend, and when CD 21 comes, you will likely get your blood drawn to confirm ovulation, check estrogen and progesterone, and HPT (in case you get pregnant) and then you start the lupron. Then you again will get your period and then start the stimulation meds up to retreival. But looking at the calendar, I bet you won't be able to start all this until two cycles at least, after Christmas, since most fertility doctors won't do cycles the last two weeks of the year. So, I would just count on talking with the doctor at this point and getting his approval to proceed to IVF and figuring out all the costs, and come January, you will be all set to go. Good luck Tink!!

Hi everyone. how is everything going today? Nothing to report here. Not really any cm anymore, kinda dry. Don't feel pregnant at all. Only 5 dpo. I had always said if I wasn't pregnant by dec we'd call it a day and move on. not sure how I feel. If af hasn't arrived by sat I will test. Where abouts is everyone else in their cycles now?

well ladies, it's official, 2 BFN and now AF has showed today. so another busted cycle. i am kind of over it now, time to move on. Linds- i thought about doing another IUI cycle since it is covered until the end of the year, but DH is going out of town the week after thanksgiving, which would be around CD13-14, so he wouldn't be here to do his part. so who knows what we will do. i can't really decide for sure on the IVF until thanksgiving when my grandpa is here and i find out if he is going to help us financially. i imagine my doc isn't cheap since he is well known in the US as one of the best. so we will see. So did you have to pay up front? or are you being charged at each portion of things happening during IVF? thanks for all the info on the stages. so today is CD1 for me, so this month i would do no drugs and just go in at CD21 for b/w? then wait for AF in December? Then start lupon in late December after AF came? how long do you do the lupon, a full month? I am going to call first thing Monday am to schedule a consult for this week to discuss our next step/option and find out how much IVF would even cost with him. He has a 66% success rate posted on his webpage, which is apparently pretty good for IVF across then nation. his website is ivfplano.com. i am going to look into it and will keep you posted on how it goes. so where are you at in the process now- on lupron yet? what does the lupron do?

Tink...so sorry to hear af arrived. thats crummy. I'm glad though that you sound positive and upbeat and ready to tackele the next step, thats great. I so hope and pray we get our BFP soon. My test day is Saturady and its starting to really bug me all this, keep me in your prayers this week. Linds, JB, Pam, Angelkitty, how are things?

Hi Lovemy3 and everyone else, Not an easy thing to say but it's over for me. I"m in the start of a m/c. I started feeling odd on Friday..took a HPT on Sat and the line was alot lighter than before. I've had this happen in the past and it's a definite beginning of a m/c. Saturday late in bed I started cramping really bad w/ an urge to go to the bathroom but nothing came. lots of painful cramping. 2nd sign of a m/c. I should start spotting soon and should be back in the 2ww game in a month I hope. I don't think my OB will make me wait a cycle due to only being pregnant for a few weeks. Sorry to be a buzz kill! Hope you're having a great weekend. Hang in there. Someone is bound to have good news for us soon. Keep the faith girls! Trust me - after 4 m/c in a row it's so hard but I'm hanging in there.

Pam....Hugs, hugs. I'm so sorry this has happened. I don't even know what to say except this whole thing is just horrid XOXO

Pam... SO Sorry to hear about your m/c. It's always tough to go through. You are a strong woman and you will get through this. I have been through it once but didn't even know that I was pregnant. Ever since then I can't even get to a BFP. DH and I have been trying for 2 years now and it is really frustrating when all you want is to have a baby. I hope that there is a lot of support for you right now. If you feel up to it, you should keep writing. I find that it is really stress relieving and good to get it out if not out loud but in writing. Best to you...

Good morning ladies! Happy Monday!!!! How is everyone doing?

Pam...hope you are doing ok this a.m. Such heartbreak..hugs. Angelkitty...all is fine here. cd28 and coming down to the crunch of waiting. Going by my ovulation this month af would arrive on cd31 or cd32 I figure. lets pray not! I don't even have a hpt in the house this time around. I don't have any symptoms, we'll see. This was our first month of bding every other day vs everyday. Where are you in your cycle?