2ww driving you crazy? Part 15
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lovemy3 - January 31

Thanks Angelkitty you are so sweet! Heres a God question for you. When I went in to see him today the conversation started out on the basis of my maternal age being older now then 2 yrs ago when I last had an appt. We discussed Downs and that we wouldn't terminate etc. he then brought up an issue that he said needs to be thought about prior to conception. He told dh and I about a chromo. problem called trisomy 21. he said that most of those babies die in utero but some may live as ,long as 1 month but they do not survive, bottom line. he is a Fetal medicine Specialist and this is his thing. So, he says to me. At 12 weeks you take a test, blood test, for this. If it comes back positive and is then confirmed 100% by amnio he strongly advises to "terminate". I objected to that and he said that the baby would not survive past a month 100%. he called it "fact" and because also carrying this type of baby with placental issues would have a direct impact on my health because of my past preeclampsia issue in regards to my liver and kidneys shutting down. (I get quite sick). he then said that my uterus is thin and that my 4th c-section is risky and that if I chose to carry to term a baby that would not survive and go to give birth via c-section (which it would be) that I am risking my life A) because of the 4 c-section for a baby that won't survive and B) because carrying this type of baby with this certain issue will affect my organs. Not everyones but because I have this underlying preexisting condion that happens it could be "fatal" for me. So he said that if we continued with this pregnancy IF I had a baby with this, my c-section would be for a non-surviving baby, it would have to be my last as its my 4th and my uterus is thin already and also throughout my pregnancy the dying aby would trigger my preeclampsia to a severe stage. His words "possibly fatal". So, he said before we continue to ttc we need to know what we would do if this situation should arise. the probablity at age 38 is 1/200 he said. I could never terminate for just Downs etc but his point is that i would be leaving my other 3 motherless and husband wifeless for a baby that has 0%. My first thought is to me God decides who is born and when they die, not me. And the dr's thing is that "terimanting at 12 weeks means no cutting of my uterus and no chance of the placental issues arising. But if you chose to wait it out till God handled it, I would need the c-section and would suffer the consequences of the placental issues and the effects on me. he actually said it could be fatal. My dh who is a believer said right off the hop, well "of course we would terminate if the chance was 0 for baby and it could kill my wife" I was actually shocked and have been thinking about it all night. I would love to hear your opinion as a fellow Christian. I also hope I don't offend anyone with my opinions about this. Every women needs to make the choice they feel is right etc. I am just struggling with this tonight and was hoping you guys may have an opinion, but lioke I said, I hope no one is offended in any way. hugs.

 

RainbowBJW - January 31

First of all thanks everyone for the consolation about the Ibuprofen, I was on a big panicky post HCG hormone surge and needed the comfort. Hey Lovemy3 - I totally feel for you on the weight issue. My maternal-fetal doc got all up on arms about my weight and told me how it's affecting my fertility (like the big ole ovary-sized ovarian cysts weren't a clue???) and yes they do have a point but let's be realistic here, slightly larger and even fat women have been having babies for centuries. My sister was 300+ lbs when she had all 3 of her HEALTHY babies (singletons) and yes she needed and RE but she and myself are what I like to call the "Fat and Proud" types who don't let a doc tell us he won't treat us until we lose weight. I'm pretty sure she had the same problem as you, not PCOS but eggies just aren't making it out of the ovary? She managed to do it with Clomid but it did take a while. Don't give up, if you want to lose weight for you than go for it but don't get "fat-shamed" by a MD who just doesn't want to put forth the extra effort to fight the hormones that just happen to live in fat cells. That's just my opinion. Hey QQ for everyone on Progesterone: does anyone get funky, vivid dreams on this stuff? Since I started the hormones but especially the Progesterone I have the freakiest nightmares.

 

lovemy3 - January 31

Good morning. Hi rainbow, thanks for the encouragement about the weight stuff . he was really nice and they weight issues he mentioned he did it with kindness. Thats great about yor sister. For me my weight doesn't help my preeclampsia and diabetes (gestational) so even i n my own heart I know I need tro lose it. thats interesting about the egg theory to and your sister. We are probably the same. My weight was hi- 230. I was shocked and upset. Anyhow, as far as the clomid goes, for me the risk of multiples is something we don't want to take with 3 scars and preeclampsia. i think it would be 2 hard on my body to carry them, sooooo I am praying that weight loss cures my problem. When I concieved before easily, I wasn't this heavy, so it makes sense. I really agree though to never to be shamed because of your weight, its really hard and many are unkind. Hope you are doing well.

 

lyric - January 31

hi ladies!!! you are all so smart. I never thought of contacting the hospital. DH called the office yesterday and found out that the doc is on vacation until next tues. They would not give him the results & asked that he make an appt. I am trying not to read into that. I hope it's b/c she just wants to be able to answer his questions & not that there is a problem. I am going to try the hospital and see if they will release them. LOVEMY- i am having the same exact problem. eggs not reaching maturity & no release. I am on clomid. It seemed to do the job the first month. Eggs released not pg. second. didn't work and now he upped the clomid so we shall see tomorrow if it worked. egg/s released. I have my u/s tomorrow. I am overweight. I am 5'7" and about 175. Doc never said to me that it was my weight that was a problem but I am sure it doesn't help. I do have PCOS. I am sure that your bloodwork will offer some insight. pls let us know. RAINBOW- no no dreams for me while I was taking it.

 

JB0405 - January 31

Hey Ladies!!! RAINBOW- I applaud you! Your comments to LOVEMY3 were so eye opening and let me tell you guys, I am currently near 250 lbs. never had a baby, never was I "skinny" I have always been a "healthy"girl, if you kmow what I mean! I am of course in the care of an RE and she has only once mentioned my weight and that was in response to my hypothyroidism! LOVE, can you get a 2nd opinion OR go see an RE with out the consent of your current physician?

 

JB0405 - January 31

Sorry LOVE, I didn't read all the way down... OK so you are ok with having to lose the weiht. He was gentle about it is good because as you said lots of people are unkind! GOOD LUCK and keep us posted! LYRIC- I too have PCOS, are you on any meds or any routine that pertains to that? Although I believe there is no regimen for PCOS!

 

JB0405 - January 31

AF is REALLY flowing today and the cramps have been unbelieveable! I started the estrace this morning!

 

lovemy3 - January 31

Hey JB. Whats the next step now for you? Ya, I'm ok with losing the wight. I feel really crummy carrying it around. My physical activity is down and I do feel much better lighter physically. Plus, with my bp issues during my pregnancies its safer for me. So, thats it really here. I am eagerly awaiting my blood results as I am really curious. Hope everyone is having a good day.

 

JB0405 - January 31

Hey LOVE, I am ok, struggling with AF's side effect: diarrhea. I usually have lose bowels due to the metformin I am on BUT with AF it seems to be worse! I go back to the RE next week Thursday to determine when ET will be! So we'll see!

 

lovemy3 - January 31

lets get a new shorter thread..

 

Tink - January 31

hey guys- lovemythree, glad you got your appt in, and i hope your tests come back good. i am sorry the doc is pushing hte weight issue. if you aren't comfortable with it, don't do it, if you think it will help, then go for it. i have never been a skinny minnie either, except when i got depressed when Dh and I split up just after our wedding 5 years ago (long story- 1000 times happier now!). anyways- i got too skinny and i never thought that possible. i have always been a healthy athletic build, but i've gained 10-15 this year on all these meds. it's been hard, but i've just given in to it, i can't change it for now, so i've just lived with it! i am about 5'8 or 5'9, and weighing in at like 160 most days. just do what you feel is right for you! like JB- AF has shown up for me too- which is great news, since i start stims this weekend. i am very excited to get my bloodwork tomorrow and see if they will let me start the stims earlier! i am so ready to get the ivf show on the road.

 

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