Clomid users-Does clomid make your cycle longer?

Question: This is my first month on clomid-50 mg days 4-8.I did ovulate cd 15 or more likely 16 and am currently at cd 28. My temps have been high-99 this morning, but no pregnancy symptoms, just terrible headache yesterday and today and irritable.I also have occasional pain in lower left abdomen. Oh yeah, I did have 25 day cycles. I've gotten bfn's up until 10dpo and then started using opk's since they can also pick up the hcg(and are cheaper!) and there is barely a line. Is the clomid causing the longer cycle or could this be a possible pregnancy?( I really don't have AF or prego symptoms). Thanks.

Post Your Answer To The Question Above:

Name: Tracy | Date: January 31, 2006, 23:54

Answer: Could be either/or. I did clomid last month cd's 5-9, ovulated on cd 15, and AF came on cd31. I normally have 28 day cycles. At this point you could be PG or it could just be the clomid. I wish I could tell you more, but until you get a positive HPT or AF, all you can do is wait it out. Let me know what happens. Lots of luck and baby dust!

Name: Lauren | Date: February 1, 2006, 8:53

Answer: Thanks for responding. Temp dropped this am so I'm pretty sure af is on the way (again). Glad I didn't waste another test! Good luck to you and lots of baby dust!!!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 1, 2006, 17:27

Answer: Still keep me posted, you never know. Clomid has been known to make temps erratic for some people. I don't temp, so I'm no pro. But I am curious to see how things work out for you, and if AF does show, keep your chin up and try again. My sister got PG on her second cycle, so there is no reason to get depressed if the first didn't catch. I say this because I did get depressed and don't want anyone else to waste their energy.

Name: Ann | Date: February 1, 2006, 20:12

Answer: Lauren, I am on my 5th round of clomid. It has not affected the length of my cycles, but I've heard other people say that it does make theirs longer. I found some home pg tests at a "dollar store" that are very sensitive (detect 20mIU) if you want to get some cheapies! How long have you been ttc?

Name: Lauren | Date: February 2, 2006, 9:28

Answer: Thanks Tracy about the not getting depressed part-trying to remember that! We lost a baby last April when I was a little over 5months along and have been ttc AGAIN since then-Feb. will be month nine I think.I don't always ovulate on my own and supposedly this Clomid will work.-it just doesn't make me feel great! Still no AF but I have a feeling it will start-temp is lower. Can you say" longer cycle"=torture! Thanks Ann-I'll head to the dollar tree so I can obsess some more and drive my dh more nuts!LOL!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 2, 2006, 9:54

Answer: Lauren, I would like to say I'm sorry about the miscarriage, but I don't think anything I say could erase what happened. That's a tough thing to have gone through....I'm proud you are still on the path to TTC. I know how you feel about the extended cycle. I thought when I was late last month that there was a chance I was PG. I tried not to get my hopes up, but I think somewhere in the back of your mind, you always do just a little. I didn't cry when AF showed, but instead when I started my clomid again on day 5 I started to fall apart because it made me very depressed. I stayed in a funk for over a week and thought, "How am I supposed to get PG when I am this depressed?" BUT by the time I ovulated, I was on a mission and had sex every single day for like 5 days. I still have down moments, but I'm learning to deal with them, they have become routine. Isn't that sad? I am going to call a therapist my OB recommended just to have someone to help me through this process all over again. I am about 7 or 8 dpo now and going absolutely stir crazy!!!!

Name: Lauren | Date: February 2, 2006, 17:17

Answer: Hi Tracy..I can relate to the routine. My dh HATES IT and told me he doesn't want to hear about it anymore. I kind of understand about the crazy feelings on clomid..I don't know how many months you have been on it. I know this has been my first time and I have been more than up and down and am usually a steady, strong person (been through a lot). I try hard to put it in to perspective and work on other things. I do volunteer work 3 days/week with 1-5th graders, I garden, (and have ripped up my garden and flowers repeatedly and neighbors keep asking me why when it looked so nice!) and I exercise w/my dog-walk and run..she is old, so we don't go that far. I'm even begging dh for another puppy..so far answer is definite NO. I am rambling, and I am probably not even helping, but I am not embarassed to say that I went to a therapist for a while after that terrible thing happened.. we were so devastated. I think my dh needed to go too!If you think someone could help you, then do it, and do little things to make you happy in the meantine-anything that doesn't have to do with making a baby..like buy a new lipstick shade or get a pedicure or whatever or go clothes shopping. ( For the longest time I wouldn't even buy normal clothes thinking I was going to be pregnant really soon and would need maternity.. well that was ludicrous!) At least, that is what I am trying to do. I probably sound completely crazy and make zero sense. I do hope you feel better and realize all of this has nothing to do with you and with what a wonderful person you seem to be. Talking with someone can't hurt and could really help you. Take care,Lauren

Name: Ann | Date: February 2, 2006, 17:26

Answer: Lauren, I am sorry to hear you are having such a bad time with clomid and extra extra sorry about your m/c. It has to be devastating when you were at 5 months. I hope you have a long healthy pregnance this cycle! Have you tested with a hpt again yet? I hope to see you post good news soon!!

Name: bettinainc | Date: February 2, 2006, 17:33

Answer: Lauren my cycle this month was longer. I ovulated on cd 20 and AF came today cd 34. I usually have 29 or 30 day cycles. This will be my 5th month on clomid. I don't know how much more of this I can take. Trying not get my hopes up with longer cycles but you just can't help it. I'm bummed.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 2, 2006, 18:31

Answer: Lauren, it's funny that you mention that you walk with your dog, because lately I have been wanting one so bad so I would just get out into the fresh air. I had a dog with my ex and used to walk the dog like 3 times a day, plus whenever we went to a park or something. I miss it a lot and it forced me to stay in shape. I could use the distraction, but we are renting right now and the home owner asked that we not get new pets while here, plus we already have two cats and the place is too small for three animals. We are looking to move out of state as soon as possible, that is why we rent right now. I will take your advice; however, and see the therapist. It can only help.

Name: Lauren | Date: February 2, 2006, 19:49

Answer: I went to Dollar Tree and bought opk's and hpt's and tested and got a bfn... I had a feeling. I don't know why I tested-just wishful thinking I suppose. It's been about 14dpo. At least my luteal phase has been lengthened! Thanks Ann for the kind words.Good Luck and Baby Dust! Bettinainc, I was wondering if you would ever consider a more agressive option like the injectible medications? I don't know that much about them...but don't they have higher success rates? I guess I am curious how long you are going to stay on the clomid ? I hope this is it for you and I am sending you tons of baby dust! Tracy that is terrible about the no new pets. That was always hard when we rented. Cats are great...but you can't walk them. Maybe when you get settled you can pick out a new puppy! What kind of a dog person are you? I have a fat chocolate lab named Zoe( means life, ironically). There is absolutely nothing she won't eat-she even eats every vegetable!LOL!Anyhow take care of yourself and I'll pray for a BFP for you! Hang in there! No pressure for anybody to post-just when you feel like it.Thanks again for helping me. Good luck and lots of baby dust-it will happen for all of us eventually.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 2, 2006, 20:41

Answer: I love all dogs, but always seem to get big ones. My last dog was a stray; shepherd/golden retriever mix. I like dogs that you can run, sporty types, like labs. I have always wanted a pure golden. I love their demeanor, obedience, and loyalty. AND you can exercise them. I want a dog I can trust around my children. Labs are awesome too. You said yours is older. How old? Well just to stick with the topic of the forum, I am actually 8 or 9 dpo. I think I posted earlier that I was earlier than that. Sorry about the BFN...I know how much I hate seeing them, so my heart goes out to you. Keep the faith.

Name: Ann | Date: February 2, 2006, 21:33

Answer: Hi everyone. Lauren/Tracy, I love dogs as well! Dh and I have three (one too many at least:)). I had one before we got married (Boston Terrier), and he had one before we got married (13yo Shepard mix). Then, we adoped a Boxer off doggie death row right around the time we got married. I used to have a Boxer (named Zoey! she died in 1999) and always wanted another one. Speaking of injectibles, I will likely be trying them if my next iui (4th) doesn't take (today I am 9dpo). Does anyone know what a RE is likely to prescribe first? betinainc, I know what you mean about not knowing how many more times you can go through this disappointment! I am on my 5th round of clomid as well. Lauren, sorry about your BFN. It isn't over yet, though, you still have hope! Btw, I shop at Dollar Tree too for the hpts! Everyone, what is/are your ttc issues?

Name: Lauren | Date: February 3, 2006, 9:47

Answer: Hi Ladies! My dog just turned 9. I am going to try to feed her lowfat dogfood -Iams 30%less fat I think..something like that. I could never think about not having her around! Ann, I got the Dollar Tree idea from you-hope you don't mind! I hope they really work. I had crazy cycles after what happened and didn't always ovulate. If I did ovulate on my own, usually my luteal phase was so short that a pregnancy didn't have the time to develop. This will be month 9 of ttc (if af ever starts) and I think just some regularity will help me-I hope. Do any of you have other children or is this going to be #1? We have a 3 1/2@ year old boy I had naturally..don't know if it was because I was younger or what???? I'd like some advice on what you guys think-is this a good dr. or not? What would you do? Here is a quick rundown, I hope it doesn't depress you! Please no! I just don't have any other sound opinions aside from my mother's, and she only gets me upset again! I am considering changing dr.'s just for new scenery..and a new beginning. I kind of get negative feelings when I go in there and I probably shouldn't feel that way.However, she has my entire history and will work with my perinatologist(high risk) she referred me to. I don't blame my dr., but I'll always wonder why I was told to stay at home with a pad to soak the bleeding instead of meet her at the emergency room. The nurse told me to stay at home. I was so far along. When my husband finally insisted to take me-they took 2 1/2 hours to do an ultrasound while I layed there on a cold table with a sheet and a pad soaking the blood. There wasn't an ultrasound tech on call-it was the weekend. My ob never showed up until after some other dr. told me there was no heartbeat. I wasn't induced for labor for about 8 hours after I arrived and then I had about 8 hours of labor, my blood pressure was 20/10 and I needed blood. I was passed out for a portion of this, don't recall everything! My poor dh-they should have alcohol for men in hospitals! How did you guys find your doctors?Did you interview them? What would you do if you were in my shoes? Have any of you miscarried or know someone that has? I am just trying to figure out if I am overreacting. My ob had also referred me to her best friend, my future perinatolgist. He is a good dr, but I wonder if he was careful about what he told me. He speculated placental problems and an infection soon thereafter.Sorry so long...won't bring up again!!!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 3, 2006, 10:26

Answer: Lauren, I didn't get a good feeling from anything you just wrote. I had a miscarriage at 8 weeks one time (I was 23). I started bleeding, went in right away to see my doctor, he sent me directly over to the hospital for an ultra-sound. My blood showed PG, but they couldn't see anything on the US so they kept me overnight and were going to do surgery the next morning in case ectopic. By morning my blood levels decreased and I passed the fetus. I felt VERY well cared for/ no negative feelings. I would change doctors for sure! I once had an OB that was too busy and just sucked as a result; very inattentive! Ann--you can never have too many dogs. I used to have three as well (with my ex). Guys, I have no other children; just got married for the first time nine months ago at age 35. I have never wanted a child more as I love my husband and want to share this miracle with him. I go through all the feelings of failing him etc...and tell him he should have married someone younger. He deserves for this to be easier and not some kind of mission. It is what it is though, and I know he loves me soooo much. I am his princess and he does so much to make me happy. I am blessed with a good man (finally!) Bettinainc, I feel pretty bummed myself most of the time. Just called two therapists; one doesn't accept my insurance and one is too busy to take new patients. The search goes on.......

Name: Ann | Date: February 3, 2006, 11:38

Answer: Lauren, I read your story with your m/c. It is terrible and sounds extremely stressful. However, I don't know what the "standard procedures" are for all that stuff, since I have never been pg with any result. If I were you, though, I would trust instincts. It sounds like you got a bad feeling for the drs, so I would switch. I don't think you are over-reacting at all. I never interviewed drs or anything--just happened to end up with an ob/gyn that i really like. I did just see a RE last week and I certainly didn't get any warm fuzzies for him! Although I don't have any other kids, my dh has a 10 yo son from a previous marriage and we have him 50% of the time. Dh and I have been together for about 7 years but only married for 2.5. He is 37 and I am 36. Now I certainly wonder if I waited too late...Tracy, I love them all, but we have too much dog!! Good luck on your therapist search. I am off to my follie check!

Name: Lauren | Date: February 3, 2006, 11:58

Answer: Thanks Tracy! I think I am going to call the OB my neighbor uses today. He has 6 kids, so maybe he'll understand the desire to want children and to have a healthy pregnancy. I just didn't know what was normal or not-hadn't experienced it. Started AF today-looking on the bright side-another chance! Tracy, you are doing great. You are not old-one of my friends just had a 2nd one at 39-1st was at 36. She didn't meet Mark(the love of her life until 35)..so it will happen! Both were clomid babies. The best part is that you are with the right man!Stop thinking he would be happier w/someone younger just to have a baby-it sounds like you are both soulmates! You are not a failure. Keep trying with the therapists on your insurance(if youstill want to)-i remember i called at least 20. Some were on my list and didn't even take my insurance any more! I know it's time consuming. Hang in there! Ann, I don't know about the first injectible prescribed-I could research it though. Tracy and Ann do you feel any different than last months symptoms? Don't worry if you don't-I'm sure it means nothing-it is too early. I feel like chanting "BFP'S BFP'S BFP'S!"

Name: Tracy | Date: February 3, 2006, 13:40

Answer: Lauren, as far as symptoms go, I had them all last month. I keep trying to look for something different, but can't really see a difference. I write everything down in an agenda. The only difference between this and last cycle was that my boobs started hurting on the same day, but were on fire this time. They hurt worse for like two days. Every ounce of boob hurt soooo bad, whereas last time it was mainly the nipple (I hate that word by the way!). So sorry about AF too. I know exactly what that's like. I'm glad you have more strength than I do though, I have felt like throwing in the towel ever since. My last AF was on Jan.11 and is due again anywhere from Tuesday through Friday.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 3, 2006, 13:46

Answer: Oh and about dog food Lauren....My cats kept puking and one always hid, so we changed their food to a brand called Innova and it changed their lives. They make dog food too. I don't find that it is much more expensive than the brands like Iams and Science Diet, but it is very healthy and all natural. We get it at our local health food store; the bag is red. I cannot tell you how my cats changed. They rarely puke, are way more playful, and the little shy one is way more extroverted and happy now. I was afraid that it would taste awful to them, but we didn't even need to ween them off the old food; they went right for it and didn't look back. Buy a small bag first and see what happens.

Name: Ann | Date: February 3, 2006, 14:43

Answer: Last month, I felt zero symptoms, but the month before that I really thought I was pg. I had 3 follies that month that were big enough to release an egg and none of them worked! I guess my body was playing tricks on me. I just got back from the dr and I have 4 follies this time but only 2 that are big enough to trigger (18mm and 20mm). They already gave me the hcg shot and I am doing an iui tomorrow morning! Lauren, sorry about af. I was hoping you were going to get a + after all. Now it is back to waiting for O!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 3, 2006, 17:21

Answer: Ann, those sound like good follicles. Hoping, wishing, praying, crossing fingers, toes, etc... Last month I had a day21 progesterone level of 32.6 and the doctor was really happy. I asked him why that was so great and he said because I obviously had some great follicles. Well?????? Where's my baby??? I didn't have any luck either. Let's keep our spirits high and positive thoughts for this month.

Name: Lauren | Date: February 4, 2006, 9:44

Answer: That sounds like a good idea Tracy. Ann-good luck..keep us updated! I am having the worst AF cramps right now-yuck! Have a great weekend!

Name: Ann | Date: February 4, 2006, 12:14

Answer: Hi guy. I just got back from my iui. For some reason, I am really feeling pessimistic. I don't think this is ever going to work for me. Dh thinks this is the lucky time, though. I HATE the 2ww!! Dh told me that he doesn't want me to take any hpts this month, but I told him that is not going to happen! Lauren, sorry about the af issues. It is extra lousy that you get the disappointment along with uncomfortable physical symptoms. Tracy, my fingers are crossed for you for no af next week!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 4, 2006, 17:28

Answer: Thanks for the positive vibes. I don't know what to feel so one minute I'm up and the next minute I'm down. I try to stay positive, but I don't think I do a very good job at it. That's why I tell others to stay positive. Hopefully it will rub off on me. I have a hard time looking at each AF as a new beginning rather than a failure on my part.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 5, 2006, 8:45

Answer: Good morning! Well the question that started this thread was, "Does clomid make your cycle longer?" I might be able to answer that question again VERY soon. Last month my cycle was 3 days or so longer and this month appears that it may be right on time. I had a ton of fluffy cm yesterday and this morning that fluffy cm was the lightest shade of pink, so that has led me to believe that AF is on her way. I tend to spot before AF arrives, so my guess is she'll be on time this month. I'll keep you posted. Have a great Superbowl Sunday and I hope whomever visits this thread is sleeping in right now since I can't. Belly rubs!

Name: Ann | Date: February 5, 2006, 10:08

Answer: Hi everyone. Tracy, that is too bad you think af is arriving...I hope she doesn't show up. I am really looking forward to the game tonight, although Super Bowl Sunday is bittersweet for me (exciting, but that means no more NFL until next season!). I don't know who I want to win tonight, but I hope it is a close game. Either of you going to any Super Bowl parties? Dh and I are just working around the house today (we bought a "fixer upper") and are going to just watch the game here w/some queso and chips!

Name: Lauren | Date: February 6, 2006, 16:24

Answer: Hello ladies...just wanted to say hi. We went to my parents yesterday. They live on a lake-it was relaxing. We barbecued and the men drank beer and the girls got a little too giggly on the wine! I 'm on AF so I figured what the heck! I'm already on my best behavior again-vitamins,healthy eating, yada, yada, yada...LOL!Anyhow, I hope you guys had a nice superbowl weekend. Keep your spirits up and take care!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 6, 2006, 16:28

Answer: Hey! So football is over for the season, I watched about the last 20 minutes of the game last night. DH doesn't watch football at all--he's a computer programmer so he's always glued to his PC. He owns his own business, and his business is also his passion, so I'm screwed! LOL... Anyway, I hope AF stays away too, but I always hope that and get let down. I expect AF to come. The cramping I had has stopped. It was pretty mild compared to AF cramps, and I have had no more spotting thus far. We'll see how the week progresses. It's gonna be a long one I think.

Name: Ann | Date: February 6, 2006, 17:03

Answer: Tracy, my dh has his own business, too (builds wine rooms in houses/restaurants to keep the wine at the right humidity and temperature). Wine, football, and dogs are our main things in common/passions! All of your signs sound positive. I've talked to a couple other people with light spotting that ended up pg. Are you going to test?? Lauren, it sounds like your weekend was good for you to relax. I hope it made you feel ready to try again!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 7, 2006, 8:35

Answer: Oh, how I wish I had a dog and could drink wine. At this point in my life, anytime I drink alcohol I get a headache within a couple of hours. Usually I haven't even left wherever I am drinking when the headache comes on. I have given up drinking altogether for that reason, but there's nothing like a little buzz from a glass of wine or two. I spotted again last night, but this tome it was creamy and chocolatey looking (gross I know). I have never seen it that consistency at this time of month before. I still feel like AF is on the way though. I'll keep you posted. I can't test. I just refuse to see another BFN staring back at me. I get so let down everytime and then realize I wasted my money. AF will let me know; she always does. Lauren, I hope you are well! Keep in touch.

Name: Ann | Date: February 7, 2006, 10:39

Answer: Tracy, no wine or drinks?? That is rough. Those are the only pros to af arriving for me!:) Are you still determined to not test? Like I said, I've heard of people spotting and being pg. I hope it is your case. I just talked to a coworker/friend of mine. She was married and has 2 kids. Her af hasn't arrived as it should have this month. If she accidentally gets pg and I can't do it after all this trying, I will be so depressed!!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 7, 2006, 12:39

Answer: Ann, I just got back from the doctor's office. I got a B12 shot and found out my day21 progesterone level. It was a sad, low 9. Last month it was a 32.6!!! What the hell is happening? The doctor was in surgery, I saw the nurse, so when he comes in this afternoon, he is supposed to call me. This sucks big time!!!!! Needless to say, there is no way I am PG. I just don't think it's possible. AF will be here soon, I guess this month I should just welcome her with open arms.

Name: Ann | Date: February 7, 2006, 14:54

Answer: Tracy, I am sorry to hear that. I have never had progesterone checked, but I've heard they check it to see if you Oed. Does that mean you didn't O or does that mean, if your progesterone was at 9, you can't be pg? If they took your blood, are they doing a pg test too?

Name: Ann | Date: February 7, 2006, 14:55

Answer: BTW, I had lunch with my coworker today and she took a pg test at lunch and it was BFN. She is relieved and I don't have to be jealous. Whew!

Name: Ann | Date: February 8, 2006, 10:33

Answer: Hey Tracy, any news today??

Name: Tracy | Date: February 8, 2006, 11:40

Answer: Hey Ann, AF showed up at work last night. My boss knows everything I've been going through and told me to go home. I love her, she is so awesome to work for. Never heard from the doctor yesterday, so I called this morning, and she is going to have him get back to me as soon as he gets in. Ironically he had multiple deliveries to take care of throughout the night; hopefully one day it will be mine. The progesterone level shows I probably ovulated, but the follicle was either weak, immature, or small; just not meant to make it into this world. They want to see a 10 for a healthy ovulation, and a 15 on a medicated cycle (which I was) so I didn't cut the mustard this month out of that ovary. I'll let you know what the doctor says if he ever calls me back. I never thought I'd have these problems. I have been PG before. One miscarriage and one terminated. I think my doctor is going to put me on Glucophage for PCOS. Your husband's business sounds cool. Wine rooms are very popular, so he must do quite well. My husbands business is Data Back-Up and Retrieval. For example, a bank may store all of their data with them in case of a disaster (like a hurricane or fire) and can retrieve data that they have already backed up. Things are going in a positive direction and hopefully will boom at some point this year. It is an expensive operation so they have to get investors etc...to keep things going and growing. I hope you are well today. Will check in later after the doctor calls.

Name: Ann | Date: February 8, 2006, 11:48

Answer: Your dh's business sounds great with data sensitivity these days! I am sorry to hear af arrived. I am really frustrated with my body, too. I feel young and most people guess/assume I am 7 or 8 years younger than I am, but I feel like the insides of my body are betraying me! I am so mad at myself for not ttc sooner. Dh and I have been together for almost 7 years, so it wouldn't have been that difficult to try. But, there is nothing I can do about it now. What do you do at work? I do international tax (e.g., restructuring, mergers and acquisitions involving foreign entities, repatriation of cash)--oh so exciting I know (zzzzz). I am looking forward to your post after you talk to the dr so you will know what you will be doing next month. Being in limbo is not fun.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 8, 2006, 21:17

Answer: Well, Ann my job is just that, a job. I used to work in TV, that was too stressful, then I started teaching elementary school, and that was too stressful, so now I work at Pottery Barn in the mall and love it. My husband says I just wasn't made to work. I think he's right. I went to school for Broadcast Journalism, so I'm a long way from that field, but I love interior design and would love to go back to school for that one day just for the hell of it. Pottery Barn just gets me out of the house and I get to do something I enjoy. Well the doc never called me back today. I'm a little miffed, but I also like him a lot and know he handled a lot of deliveries last night, so I'm trying to keep that in mind. I am going to go ahead and start my clomid tomorrow (cd3-7). I have been taking my clomid on days 5-9, so i figure I'd try something new. How are you feeling?????

Name: Ann | Date: February 9, 2006, 10:31

Answer: Tracy, your job sounds relaxing. Working at Pottery Barn is probably a good place since you have an interior design interest. My job is super stressful and I work way too many hours, but I kind of thrive on it at times (other times I head home late and stay comatose on the couch:)). Did you hear from the dr yet today? Lauren, how are you doing? What do you do for work?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 9, 2006, 21:27

Answer: I talked to the doctor finally today and he said to take 100 mg of clomid (instead of 50) and that he currently has no intention to put me on Glucophage for PCOS, as opposed to what his nurse practitioner told me. He said I have responded very well to clomid and that I either ovulated later than we thought or it was just an off month. WHATEVER!!!!! As far as Pottery Barn being relaxing, let me tell you something............I have had high cholesterol for about 15 years and since I quit teaching my cholesterol has gone down 53 points. I also had low blood platelet count, which has also gone back up into normal range. I quit teaching since I couldn't get PG and I was ALWAYS sick. I haven't been sick since I left, I had a check-up last week and I got a clean bill of health. Stress kills and teaching wasn't my passion, so it was sucking the life out of me. Here in Florida teaching is so demanding, and if you don't love it, then it's not for you. I'm glad you like what you do. I loved working in TV, but again, there was too much pressure, I didn't like putting myself through all that stress. Lauren, is everything good?????

Name: Ann | Date: February 10, 2006, 14:37

Answer: Tracy, do you think you have pcos? I don't know much about it. However, since you are 35, if I were you, I would consider switching drs. I am dealing with the egg quality/ovarian reserve issues now. 6 months ago, my levels were good, but now they are slipping. I hope you can get something done asap! I agree with you--I could never be a teacher. It sounds like a job change is exactly what you needed!

Name: Ann | Date: February 10, 2006, 19:20

Answer: As a follow up from my post earlier: I just got off the phone with my RE a short time ago. He got my cd10 blood work. He told me that my numbers are so far off that it is unlikely that I will get pg and that, even if I wanted to do ivf, he would not recommend using my eggs. I have an appt on Monday to discuss everything, but he said he would recommend trying injectibles next. I am so depressed and upset...

Name: Tracy | Date: February 12, 2006, 15:04

Answer: Oh, Ann I hope by now you are doing a bit better. I have been so busy over the last few days that I didn't get to post and I missed your news about the phone call. Let me ask you this. What would prompt the RE to say you are not likely to get PG with your eggs. Aren't you 36???? Is there something I am missing? Can you kind-of recap your TTC history for me so I can understand why someone would say that to you. I'm only asking because I care. You did mention something previously about ovarian reserve.

Name: Ann | Date: February 12, 2006, 16:15

Answer: Thanks. I am doing a little better--being really upset kind of comes and goes. Yeah, I am only 36, but it seems that my eggs fell off the cliff in the last 8 months. Last summer my FSH count was fine and now it is elevated and my Inhibin B is off as well, which means that my eggs are likely not good quality, have low hope of being capable of fertilization, and reserve is diminished. I had mild endo but had it removed (they think that got it all), so I was in the unexplained category. Now, I am afraid I waited too long to try to get pg (ttc for almost 2 years). Have you had the blood work where they check your FSH, Inhibin B, and Estradiol?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 12, 2006, 19:51

Answer: Ann, I have had my FSH, LH, Progesterone, Testosterone, DHEA, and Insulin done in the mid-follicular phase of my cycle, but as far as I know, I have not had the others that you mentioned. I'll bring it up when I see him tomorrow for my HSG. I would honestly get another opinion if I were you. That's not something I would just accept from one doctor. With the miracles that occur everyday, something can be done. Keep your chin up and let me know what happens. When is AF due? I started clomid again yesterday, for my third and final cycle. I was scared to take it because last month I practically fell apart. I was soooooooooooo depressed. BUT, so far so good. This month is different already. Like the first month, I am not emotional and barely have side effects. My biggest complaint about clomid is I have gained twelve pounds, RAPIDLY!!!!!! I hate it, but the doctor assures me it's temporary. He better be right. I had to buy new pants yesterday, because I got tired of squeezing myself into everything. Big hugs....

Name: Ann | Date: February 12, 2006, 22:43

Answer: Tracy, my af is due on Saturday. Good, I am glad they checked your fsh. That seems to be the most important part. I have been reading on the net and I think my RE's view is likely accurate. It looks like I have a less than 3% chance of getting pg and a less than 1% chance to give birth. It looks pretty hopeless for me...I am sorry the clomid throws you for such a loop. I can't feel anything when I take it. And weight gain?? I didn't even know it could do that. Is your hsg tomorrow or are you seeing your dr to schedule it?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 13, 2006, 9:29

Answer: Please just go get another opinion. I know it's not my place to ask that, but I hate it when I see women give up because someone told them it was impossible. I have read of others who switch doctors to someone who specializes in something more geared toward their problem. I'm sorry if I sound pushy, I just don't want you to throw in the towel just yet, you are still young. Today I go in for the actual HSG test. It's at 12:30. I'm a little nervous, just because I've read so many conflicting stories. Some people don't feel it and others are in pain.......so I don't like not knowing what to expect. I'll let you know how everything goes.

Name: Ann | Date: February 13, 2006, 10:26

Answer: You don't sound pushy at all. My real age isn't that old, but I guess my reproductive age is old. I don't know if I will get a 2nd opinion or not, because I think the course of treatment (injectibles and iui) would be the same. However, I may not be thinking clearly now, because I feel so hopeless. Good luck with your hsg today. I hope you don't have any pain. I would suggest taking pain meds before.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 13, 2006, 16:57

Answer: Hsg went .........painful!!!!! He could not get the catheter into my uterus so he had to dialate my cervix. It was tough to go through, but in retrospect, I'd do it again if I had to. Doctor says I am clear and squeaky clean:) he was so sweet during the whole process. I made an appointment this morning with another fertility doctor for next month and now I am conflicted on what to do. I like my doctor so much, but I have yet to have one ultrasound. That begs me to question him. I'm not sure if I have just responded well to clomid and he feels he doesn't need to do one, or what??? He thinks I should be PG soon. I'm too tired to think about right now. Gonna go lay down. Talk to you later.

Name: Ann | Date: February 14, 2006, 15:54

Answer: Hi Tracy. I am sorry to hear that your hsg was painful. I didn't want to say it yesterday, but I thought I was going to die during mine!! Like you said, it is worth it, but it is NO fun!!! Are you feeling better today? My advice is to get a second opinion. It doesn't mean that you don't like you dr. You can't get too much information!! When is your appt?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 15, 2006, 11:15

Answer: Hey Ann, I have an appointment with another doc on March 7th I think. I am just going for a consult, so I guess that means that I don't HAVE to switch docs if I choose not to at that point, right? Anyway, I am totally fine after having that dreadful HSG. It's worth having it done and knowing the facts. Today is my last day of clomid 100mg. I have been trying to ignore how edgy it makes me. I'm not as depressed as last cycle, but I still feel a pit in my stomach, like I just want to cry. I hope for a baby soon, so this will all just go away. How are you today????

Name: Ann | Date: February 15, 2006, 11:24

Answer: Hi Tracy, I am glad you are keeping your other RE appt! Like you said, you don't have to switch. I am glad you have recovered from the hsg. I still felt weird the next day, but I think it was just because I was remembering how traumatic it was!! That is great you are doing better with the clomid. How many more days of clomid do you have? Maybe your body is getting used to it. I tested this morn (bfn of course). I am doing ok. I am sort of ready for af to start so I can get on with trying!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 15, 2006, 12:02

Answer: Ann, sorry about the BFN....what day are you on now? Well, I hope it works out for you and you get a BFP after all! Today is my last day of clomid. Thank god, cause I'm feeling a little nauseous. Keep me posted on things. I am a regular on another thread called "Babydust and Bellyrubs" or something like that, if you want to pop in sometime. I love the ladies I've been hanging with now for about two months.

Name: Ann | Date: February 15, 2006, 19:03

Answer: Hi Tracy. I am on 11dpo, so a + is still possible. I'm not holding my breath, though!! Very cool that your clomid is done. I hope you get lots of big follies. Do you have a follie check appt?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 15, 2006, 20:45

Answer: See, that's the thing, I never get my follicles checked with this doctor. I just get a day21 progesterone check done. He seems to be the kind of doctor that believes that you can only do so much and the rest is up to nature. Like with temping for example. He believes that at this time, there is no point in it. It will only make me obsess more. I agree with him on that issue, because if I do an OPK then I know when I ovulate, and if I have sex when I am supposed to then that is all I can do. We check to make sure I even ovulated, and the rest is up to nature. I have every body part crossed for you that you get a BFP. When someone gets a BFP, I feel that much closer to mine. It gives me hope. Best wishes!!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: February 16, 2006, 10:41

Answer: Tracy, is your dr a RE? That sounds way too lackadaisical given your age, especially. I've believe that your follicles should be monitored when you are on clomid and to make sure your ovaries aren't overstimulated or getting cysts. I am glad you are going to see another dr. You have probably said, but how long have you been ttc?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 19, 2006, 10:21

Answer: This doc is an OB who specializes in Infertility. He actually has a good success rate and reputation, but I agree with you and that is why I made the appointment with the other guy. I have been having sex with my husband freely since we met, but started the OPK's and such about four or five months ago. Needless to say, we are not sure if it has just been a timing issue, but since I have been on clomid and am still not PG, I know there is more going on, like maybe age, etc...How are you??? Fill me in ...did you get AF yet or a BFP??????

Name: Tracy | Date: February 19, 2006, 10:22

Answer: Oh, I met my DH a year and nine months ago.

Name: Ann | Date: February 20, 2006, 10:38

Answer: Hi Tracy. Af arrived this morn right on schedule. I started taking BCPs and Parlodel last night. I woke up this morning nauseated and questioning whether I could get out of bed. I got in the shower and felt like I was going to pass out. I sat on the floor for a while and ended up puking 6-7 times. I came to work anyway and am going to call the dr shortly. I am extra glad that you have another appt. My ob/gyn specializes in infertility as well, but she was very proactive to send me to a RE after ttc for a while. I hope your new dr wants to step it up and get you pg asap!!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 20, 2006, 12:15

Answer: I hope you feel better by now. I know what all that feels like. When I get migraines I do the same thing.....I sit in the shower or on the floor and end up puking for hours. They make me dizzy, so I get nauseated. I'm sorry AF showed. I know how that feels too, so my heart goes out to you. The first day of AF is always so hard, because the reality of everything sucker punches you. Why the BCPs and what is that other thing you mentioned? Today is cd14 and still no ovulation. This is odd for me, or at least I think it is. On clomid I have been ovulating on cd14 or 15, but still not even a surge yet. Been having dizziness and mild nausea, I think from the higher dose of clomid. Very tired too. Been sleeping like a log!!! Keep in touch, let me know how you are feeling.

Name: Ann | Date: February 20, 2006, 15:28

Answer: Thanks, Tracy. I am feeling much better. Get this--the dr called and said I can take the Parlodel vaginally. Yuck!! I will gladly do it over puking. I figured out why it probably made me so dizzy. It lowers your blood pressure, and mine is low anyway (sometimes down to 95-60). The Parlodel and BCPs supress your system so you don't have any early follicles start growing. Then you stop that and go into the stimulation of the ovaries with fsh. They call it a "flare cycle." Getting af really didn't bother me that much this time. I expected it, I guess, so I wasn't as let down. I wouldn't worry about the O date just yet. With clomid, I am sure you will O, since you O on your own. Is your dh on deck and ready to go?? How are you doing? Your RE appt is in March, right? I hope you get pg and can just cancel it!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 20, 2006, 16:29

Answer: Ann, DH is always on deck!!!!! I say when and where and he is there!!! It's so funny because I said I think we should BD every other day this month because I got really burned out last month and he is hesitant to not do it so much. He wants this child so bad, he will do the dirty deed come hell or high water. I love him!!! He lights candles and plops down on the bed:))))) I found a good guy. I am glad you are feeling better and that there is a better way , well kind-of, to take that med. I haven't been feeling very well for the last 6 days now. I just know it's got to be from clomid. Glad I don't have to do it next month. I don't know what to do about the doctor. I am kind-of hesitant to leave my current doc, I just have a good feeling about him, but am just afraid of wasting time, I guess. Anyway, I was talking to this chic the other day who had three surgeries and ended up PG right after her last operation. She then proceeded to say, "Make sure you go to Dr. Herbst, he is the best and I am proof of that." He also helped some of her friends. Well, lo and behold, that is who I am currently seeing. She said if there is something he does not do, he does not hesitate to refer you to the right person. She had a beautiful little boy in the stroller, so that is why I'm afraid to leave him, among other good feelings from him in general. I think I just might request more monitoring. I am willing to pay for it and I know they will do it if I ask. Keep your chin up!!! You are putting yourself through a lot, so rest OK???

Name: Tracy | Date: February 20, 2006, 16:33

Answer: I also ended up in Dr. Herbst's office, because he was referred to me by a friend of mine who couldn't seem to get PG and was also over 35. She now has a 3 year old little girl. Anyway, just thought I'd throw that in there!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: February 20, 2006, 17:14

Answer: That is good to know about your dr. I would just try to keep liking him and agreeing with his treatment separate. If you are happy with the pace, then all is well! Like I said before, it still wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion. My dh commented the other day about how every TV show seems to have someone getting pg and everyone at the store seems to be pg or have a baby. Why not us?? I am feeling much better. I am relieved that I won't be puking in the morning. 10 days of that would be harsh.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 20, 2006, 19:36

Answer: I think I will go see the other doctor, just to compare plans. Thanks for your input. Working at Pottery Barn, I see a million babies in a day, then have to see them on TV and in magazines as well, and DH always says, "Ohhh, they have a baby." I know he is trying to be cute, but I have had to tell him to stop saying that because it hurts my feelings and makes me feel like a failure. Glad you are doing well. Peace!

Name: Ann | Date: February 21, 2006, 11:20

Answer: I know what you mean about the comments from dh. My dh really likes kids and I think he keeps some comments to himself now. It is like the pink elephant in the room sometimes!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 21, 2006, 21:02

Answer: Oooohhh girl, I am ovualting, no doubt. Had EWCM today and can barely sit down, my belly hurts so bad. Not bad enough to be concerned though. I have got to get busy with DH tonight and I have literally no sex drive. Oh well, who cares, it's all for a good cause!

Name: Ann | Date: February 22, 2006, 10:22

Answer: It is really tough to do it when you don't feel like it. I hope all goes will tonight and glad to hear your O is on its way!! I received all my meds yesterday. There are all kinds of meds in the box: Doxycycline, Ovidel, Follistim, Menopur, Progesterone, and Lupron. I was looking forward to opening the box, but when I saw all the meds I just started crying. I hate taking any kind of medication and here I am/will be taking all kinds of stuff that I have no idea how I will react to. 4 of them are injectibles, too. It is really depressing me, but at the same time I am looking forward to trying to get pg and want to try everything I possibly can. So you can feel it when you O?? I don't think I can. I've felt "twinges" but am not sure if it was my imagination.:)

Name: Tracy | Date: February 22, 2006, 11:39

Answer: Good luck with all those meds. I know it can be depressing and overwhelming. I hate the way I feel on clomid alone, so I can just imagine how daunting it must be to take all that other stuff. I do feel when I ovulate. The last two cycles of clomid though, I couldn't feel the pains as distinctly as usual, but last night I could feel my right ovary just cramp up several times. The pains were so sharp. I felt ovulation more than I ever have. I'll take it as a good sign, since the last two months, my belly was just on fire, this time I felt specifics. I had a dream last night that I took a ton of crazy, high tech pregnancy tests and all were coming up negative. I woke up this morning depressed and angry (probably from the clomid). When are you supposed to start all of those meds??? Good luck and keep me posted.

Name: Ann | Date: February 22, 2006, 11:44

Answer: I started taking the BCPs and Parlodel on Sunday and that lasts for 2 weeks. I have a "class" on Feb 28th at the dr to learn how to do the injections, so I will find out exactly when I have to start the rest of the meds then. Also on these meds, not only do they have the normal side effects, such as headaches and nausea, listed, they also have things like moodiness, vomiting, acne, and sore boobs. Fun, fun! So the side effects may make me feel pg, which will make the BFNs harder! Ok, I am done venting. I have heard that you feel more O pain if you are releasing more eggs, so hopefully that means that you have lots of chances this month and one will take hold!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 22, 2006, 21:42

Answer: It's funny because all of the side effects you have listed, I have been experiencing with Clomid. The first month I was on it, I did think I was PG (post ovulation of course). Well, I've done all I can do for this month, the rest is up to the universe to provide for me. Now the dreaded TWW!!!!! Good luck with all of your yummy meds!!!

Name: Ann | Date: February 22, 2006, 23:05

Answer: Welcome to the 2ww! I know it is a sloooow time, but it is leading up to the big BFP!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 23, 2006, 20:32

Answer: Yeah, the TWW seems to last a month in and of itself! I was short tempered today. Probably the clomid, too early after ovulation to be anything else. Been getting throbbing headaches too. Had one last Thursday and Friday, and now one today. Hoping with all of my might for a BFP this month....if not, I know it's going to hit me hard. I'm struggling to understand why this has happened to me. I go through stages which come full circle and now I am in the why me stage.

Name: Ann | Date: February 24, 2006, 10:07

Answer: I am constantly in the why-me stage. I keep trying to think of something I did wrong to "deserve" it. It is frustrating! I am sorry you have headaches. It is extra tough when you can't safely take anthing but Tylenol...hope you feel better.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 24, 2006, 19:40

Answer: Ann, so how are the medications treating you? Doing OK on them? I am still waiting..............only 3dpo!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: February 27, 2006, 10:56

Answer: Hi Tracy. The meds have been ok. My face broke out on my cheeks, but who knows if that is meds or stress! I will be happy when Tuesday passes (my last day of Parlodel). How are you doing w/the wait?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 27, 2006, 17:27

Answer: The wait always sucks to be honest. I am now 6dpo and cd21. I go for my day 21 bloodwork tomorrow since I ovulated on cd15. I really don't feel PG, but I can't say I'm not either. Little booger might not even have implanted yet. I have been having an odd luteal phase though. Since starting clomid, I have had a post ovulation migraine, which fortunately has not shown yet. My boobs barely hurt, whereas the last two cycles they have been on fire from about 3dpo. And I do not have a lot of CM which on clomid I tend to get A LOT in the luteal phase. I don't know!!!! The more we try to figure our bodies out the less we understand them! I feel good today though, so that's a plus.

Name: Ann | Date: February 27, 2006, 18:00

Answer: From what I have ready, today is actually the first day it could have implanted!! So the body signs would likely be zero up to now, right? You are a non-tester, aren't you? I hope you have lots of fun stuff to take your mind off for the next week, and hopefully it is working on implanting as we speak!

Name: Tracy | Date: February 27, 2006, 20:53

Answer: Ann, I am a non-tester because it breaks my heart to get all excited about seeing a BFP, just to see a BFN. I do have a nice distraction from the TWW. I start at Pottery Barn Kids on Wednesday, and will be working full-time for a short while. They are opening a store in our mall on March 10th, so we are going to start stocking the floor this week and doing all the visual merchandising (my specialty). I am up for a full-time position, but I'm not really sure I want it if they even decide to give it to me. I like my freedom, so I will put in the hours to open the store and handle the rush, then when things die down, I will work about 25-30 hours a week. I'm just glad to have something new to do for a while. Too much time on my hands makes me crazy. I hope that I can write one day that I got my BFP. I hate feeling melancholy and down all the time. My husband is going to pay for me to see a personal trainer twice a week, so maybe I can re-direct some of my pent up anger. I'm hoping the trainer will boost my spirits and I'll voluntarily go to the gym more. Besides breaking out, have you had any other side-effects like moodiness or being emotional? Headaches? I broke out this month too. I didn't expect it, but had some nice acne this month. I never break out unless I either get AF or sleep in my make-up, and these suckers just wouldn't go down. Hopefully my hormones were working wonders on the inside of my body while ravaging the outside. Well, take care. Keep in touch.

Name: kimmie76 | Date: February 27, 2006, 21:06

Answer: I am now about to start dose 3 of clomid. My once normal 28 day cycle is now a 32 day cycle since starting clomid. I thought I was prg. because of being 4 days late, no babies. This month I almost expected it. I am getting a little disappointed, I want a baby so bad. I have a 5 yr old son, but I want a baby. I know that sounds selfish, but it's what consumes me. Sorry for going off topic, but yes my cycle was longer.

Name: Tracy | Date: February 27, 2006, 21:55

Answer: Kimmie, I just posted in response to you on the other thread. AF was late for me on cycle one, on time (cd28) for cycle two, and I will know about the end of cycle three in about a week or so. I am always regular with a 28 day cycle, so I too thought I got PG when AF was late on round one of clomid. I had soooooo amny symptoms too, which come to find out, were a by-product of the drug. I am 36 with no children, so I know how badly you want this baby. I die inside every time I get my period. It's the only thing I live for. It's definitely not selfish to want another child. I know I will want another one after my first. When you get bitchy or emotional just know that it's the clomid talking and you will be back to yourself in no time. Every month I say to myself, "I can't do this again", but I do. This was my final round of clomid though. Doc says we'll move on to something else after this. I see him on the 7th, the day AF is due. Everytime I have had an appointment with the doctor, I had coincidentally gotten my period that morning, so God willing, I will go without it this time. Good luck and keep us posted on things.

Name: Ann | Date: February 28, 2006, 15:44

Answer: Hi Tracy. Working 25-30 hours/week sounds great. That is so nice of your husband to set you up with a trainer. I feel guilty for not getting more exercise. I am a normal weight, but I don't exercise enough. I truly believe that taking care of ourselves is critical at this time. I don't want to look back and question if there was more I could have done. In a way, I wish I had to work out to stay at a normal weight, so I would be more motivated to do it. Then again, with my crazy work hours...I do eat pretty well, and the only "drugs" I do are caffeine (one coffee/day and chocolate) and some red wine. I had my shot class today. The office is supposed to call me because the nurse isn't sure when I will start the injections (my supression cycle is shorter than their usual), but I think it will be about 3 days after I stop the BCPs (Saturday is my last dose). It really annoys me that the nurses don't know what is going on with me (don't they keep records in my file??). It is a good thing I am anal and pay attention (too much at times) to details. The injections look horrible!!! Just watching the demonstrations made me want to puke and my dh was worse than I was. I told him that I will just try to do them myself first. I can't believe how far the needle has to go in. There will be 4-5 shots per day for up to 2 weeks! Plus, the blood work. I don't know how I will get through all this with my needle phobia, but I will do it. It will be so depressing if it doesn't work. I think that is so odd your dr doesn't do u/s checks on your follies. I can see if he doesn't think you need iui yet or other drugs, but it seems like you should be monitored to know exactly when you will O. Those opks are not that accurate. Welcome Kimmie! Feel free to vent. That is what we are all here for. Like Tracy, I am 36 w/no children. Sorry for the novel-sized post.

Name: Ann | Date: February 28, 2006, 15:51

Answer: Tracy, I forgot to answer your side effects question. I was really short-tempered last week, which is very unlike me. I know it must be the meds. Also, I have felt like I am wound tighter than a drum. I am sure part of it is just stress. Emotional/wound tightly is not my norm either (usually very laid back). So far, I have been able to tell myself, "Don't react to what you are feeling. It is just stress and meds," which has kept me from going off on my dh and others!:) I don't know if I will be able to keep it up and under control with all the injections, though. Are all your clomid side effects gone? Will your 2ww be over on Sunday?

Name: Tracy | Date: February 28, 2006, 21:54

Answer: I've been feeling pretty good for the last couple of days. I had a hot flash this morning, but I'm not really sure it was from the clomid at this point in my cycle. Maybe it was just hot in my house!!! I am so glad that I feel more like myself though, clomid makes me crazy. I sure hope I don't have to move on to injectibles. That sounds very awful. More awful than I imagined. I had no idea you had to take so many shots over a two week period. And I thought clomid sucked. I just got home from the movies with my mother-in-law, went pee, and there was a tiny pink spot on the TP. I have had some mild cramping off and on all day today. Very weird.

Name: Ann | Date: March 1, 2006, 11:03

Answer: Glad you are feeling better. I hope it is implantation spotting!! When is your appt again with the RE?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 1, 2006, 15:48

Answer: Tuesday, March 7th is the day of my appointment, the same day AF is due. I am curious though as to why I have not gotten my migraine (from high progesterone) nor are my nipples sore. I am 99% sure I ovulated because I felt it big time and had EWCM. What do I know??? I had my day 21 progesterone test done, so the doctor will tell me at some point soon.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 4, 2006, 9:49

Answer: Well, I was wondering where my monthly migraine was.......I woke up with it at 3 in the morning two days ago. I still had pains in my head yesterday. It was a doozie! The strange thing is...I don't know why it showed at 9dpo (very late for it) or if it was caused by sinus/environmental factors. Wednesday I unloaded two semi trucks filled with 3600 boxes for the Pottery Barn Kids store, worked under very dusty conditions, and went through a hallway and freight elevator where workmen were smoking, etc...I have very sensitive sinuses, so I'm thinking the headache wasn't hormonal at all. I am 11dpo and on cd26. The end of the month is near and I am dreading the results. Afraid I think.

Name: Ann | Date: March 4, 2006, 11:46

Answer: Hi Tracy. What did your day 21 test show? I am assuming that it said you Oed! Wow, you are already almost to testing date, even by your good waiting habits! I am excited for you to test (I hope you get to). That unloading and dusty conditions sounds like enough to give anyone a headache between dust and smoke!! It is too bad you had to be around that while ttc. Did you know that anti-inflamitories (sp?) (includes aspirin and ibuprofen) can interfere with Oing? I just found that out this week. I thought they were just bad for implantation. My dr told me not to take any after you start taking infertility meds (cd 3 for me). Did you start your training sessions yet?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 4, 2006, 14:11

Answer: Didn't get my day 21 results yet, will call on Monday. I am way too afraid to test, usually when I do, I get AF the same day, so I'm afraid to waste my money too. I thought I felt some AF cramps a little while ago. Sooooooo, don't know what to do, think, or feel. I met with a prospective trainer this morning. He incorporates nutrition counseling into his personal training regimen and also seems to know a lot about the female reproductive system, hormones, pregnancy, and overall body chemistry. I like that. So my husband has agreed to let me see him. Now all I have to do is call him and set things up. I'm excited about that. I knew Ibuprofen was bad, but my doc has me taking a baby aspirin every day. I usually stop taking it around 7dpo until AF is over, then start up again. It is meant to increase blood flow through the uterus, among other things, which I am not fully aware of. I may take a month off from all the drugs this coming cycle. It's my lazy ovary anyway, and I don't feel very well right now. Been feeling like I need to give my body a break to recuperate. What do you think? Some people say they had a horrible time on clomid, but do great with other things.

Name: Ann | Date: March 6, 2006, 11:37

Answer: Hi Tracy. Any day 21 results yet? How many consecutive months have you been on clomid? I think that, if you feel like you need a break, you should take one. I took a month off last fall and it made me ready to get back in the game. I didn't know that was the reason for the baby aspirins people take--interesting. That is what acupuncture is supposed to do, too (increase blood flow to the pelvic area). Any sign of af yet? I hope not! Your trainer sounds perfect!! It is nice that you found someone that understands your goals. Are you excited for your dr appt tomorrow?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 6, 2006, 22:46

Answer: Hey Ann. No day 21 bloodwork back yet. I worked all day and could only call while on lunch, which was at the same time the doctor's office is closed. I will see him tomorrow. I cancelled my appointment with the other doctor because he is not an RE either, and I have decided to strictly see an RE. He is an OB who specializes in infertility. My trainer doesn't want me to mess with my hormones unless I am with an endocrinologist, so he has someone he is recommending. Had some mild cramps yesterday, definitely AF type, and stronger cramps today off and on. Nipples are a little tender; boobs sore in certain areas.....this is a strange month indeed. I have never had sore boobs this long. They usually stop hurting about four days before AF arrives and cramps don't usually occur while the boobs are still sore. I tested on 11dpo and BFN. I know I said I wouldn't but I caved. Of course I have been down and expecting AF ever since. Tomorrow is cd29 and 14dpo. How are you by the way????

Name: Tracy | Date: March 6, 2006, 22:48

Answer: Oh, and this was my third cycle on clomid. Had my HSG done about three weeks ago.

Name: Ann | Date: March 7, 2006, 12:02

Answer: I didn't know that other dr you were going to see wasn't a RE. I agree that you should only see a RE. One thing I think my ob/gyn did wrong is that she didn't give me the clomid challenge test. Since my fsh is so high, it makes me wonder if it would have shown when she did my initial blood work (assuming it was a false normal reading). Oh well--nothing to do about that now...I am doing ok. I am waiting for af now. I stopped the BCPs on Saturday. I don't know how long I should wait to know if it is not going to start. I was only on the BCPs for 2 weeks, so I am not sure that I will have an af but the dr's office says I will. I've also had the stomach flu for 2 days. It has been fun aside from feeling like crap! I can't remember the last time I just bummed around the house for a couple days. I can't believe you tested! You are always so good. 11dpo is a little borderline. When are you going to test again if af doesn't arrive? Your symptoms sound very promising.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 14, 2006, 12:02

Answer: So did AF ever arrive? I got mine March 11th. Talked to my doctor and my day 21 progesterone level was a 53!!! He thought I was pg and did a test, which of course came out negative. He said he wanted to try one more month of clomid since I was responding so well, and I was going to start it again yesterday as a last ditch effort with him, but I got a horrific sinus infection. I have to take some mammoth antibiotics and am taking migraine meds for the pain since I can't take steroids, so this month is now a break cycle before I see my next doctor April 12th. DH wasn't very happy when I told him I needed a break, but he understands. I get horrible migraines due to allergies down here in Florida, he has had to take me to the ER several times. I can't take any of my allergy meds while TTC either, so I am screwed. I'd like to move up north, but that won't be happening any time soon. Where do you live? Hope all is well.

Name: Ann | Date: March 14, 2006, 12:11

Answer: Hi Tracy. What are they looking for in the progesterone tests? I've never had one. Af did arrive and it was just like a normal one. I was surprised. I started with the injections on Saturday. It was VERY traumatic. I did the Lupron Saturday morning and it took me about 30 minutes before I could stick the needle in my stomach. Saturday night I had to do 3 shots--another Lupron, Follistim, and Menopur. The Lupron and Follistim didn't physically hurt, but OUCH on the Menopur. I was shaking and crying after I was done. It is getting better and I only had to do the Menopur for 2 days (whew). I had my first follie check yesterday, but they were all too small to tell which one(s) will make it. I have another check tomorrow. I have allergies, too, but nothing like you do. My acupuncturist is treating me for the allergies and of course infertility. I hope I don't have to take any meds this year. Yours sound MUCH worse than mine. I live in Dallas, so allergies are bad in the spring and fall. I hope you get some relief soon! Are you feeling back to normal yet? I've heard Phoenix and the desert areas are good for allergies, too.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 14, 2006, 21:30

Answer: On a medicated cycle, the doctor looks for a day21 progesterone level of at least a 15. That number shows whether you had good healthy follicles that month. A 53 meant that I had great, strong eggs but apparently none were fertilized. My dentist said his wife did clomid and it didn't work for her but got PG on the injectibles, so keep the faith that all your trauma will be worth it. Sounds scary doing the shots though. I have no idea what my new doc will have in store for me. Perhaps I will be joining you with all that. Do you think the acupunture helps with your allergies or is it too soon to tell? How long have you been getting acupuncture? I had the best massage this past weekend, and I know this sounds crazy, but my period really seemed to flow after he was done. I just got back from the movies with my mother in law. We saw that movie "Failure to Launch" and laughed so hard. You should see it. It felt good to laugh. I have been feeling more like myself lately. Unfortunately my headaches from the allergies are returning and I don't know what to do except take migraine medication, which I don't want to do. Whatever, I'll just have to make due. It was good to hear from you. Keep me posted.

Name: Ann | Date: March 15, 2006, 11:29

Answer: I've heard that acupuncture is really good for headaches. I can't really tell yet on the allergies. The season is just now kicking in. I hope it helps. I've been going for a month now. That isn't crazy at all about the massage and your af. My acupuncturist doesn't do near as many needles duing af because he said it makes you bleed too much. Wow, your progesterone was really great then! You must've had more than one egg. I had an u/s this morning. I have a 17.5mm, a 14mm, and two 12mm follies. I don't think the 12s will make it, but there is the possibility. So I should have 2 or maybe 4 tries this month. I really hope it works. These shots are about to push me over the edge! I think my iui should be Friday or Saturday, but I am hoping for Saturday due to work.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 15, 2006, 23:27

Answer: Good luck with your IUI. Patience pays my friend. The shots will be over soon I hope. Those follicle sizes sound great....I am so excited for you. I have a good feeling about this!!!! My thoughts are with you!! I am only on cd5, but feel good. I have to say, I did not realize how much I hated taking clomid. It made me very edgy. That edge is gone. I see my personal trainer for the first time in the morning. I'm kind-of scared. I am so weak and out of shape. I'm looking forward to it, I just hope he doesn't kick my ass too hard. I'll write to tell you how sore I am on Friday. Let me know when your IUI ends up being. Good luck girl!!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 16, 2006, 10:05

Answer: Thanks for the good luck wishes and good luck with your trainer! Just don't get discouraged at first. I know what you mean about being weak and out of shape. Once you have been doing it for a while, I think you will feel really good! With me, I talked to the nurse yesterday. My estradiol is at 549--going up just as it should. They are making me come in again this morning at 10:30 to see what is going on. It is going to be very tough to leave from work today. So, I will let you know when my iui is in a few hours!! I think they should be able to tell me today. How is your work going? Have you started at the new store?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 16, 2006, 10:32

Answer: Hey there! Met with the trainer this morning and I am still alive. He is kicking my ass on the calories burned thing. I had a hard time getting through some of the stuff, but I did it!!!! Now to keep it up.... Anyway, I'm glad to hear your Estradiol has gone up...like I said, I have a really good feeling about this and I don't get good feelings very often. Yes, I started a pottery barn kids. We opened almost a week ago. I busted my butt for them through Sunday only to learn that I accidentally wasn't put on the schedule. They said to just call and they would give me hours, but with my migraine on Monday, I was too ill to call, so I've just been kicking back and trying to get rid of this sinus infection. Plus, I just needed a break. I started my period Saturday and got so tired and burnt out that I have just been resting like a princess. If you'd like to see pics of me and my family go to this link: http://www.slakr.net/wedding/ that way you can finally put a face to the name. Keep me posted on the IUI please!!!! I'm soooooo hoping you get your BFP!

Name: Ann | Date: March 16, 2006, 10:50

Answer: Tracy, that is SO ironic that you said you have a feeling about this one. I always ask my dh "do you think it will work this time?" or "do you think I am pg?" He just told me yesterday not to ask him any of those questions this time. I said, "Who am I supposed to ask?" because no one in our real lives know we are even trying. He said, "Ask people on your forum." I said no one would get a feeling about me because they aren't around me in real life. Then you say you have a feeling!! It makes me feel good, even if it doesn't work out. I am getting excited, though. I got to the point with clomid/iui where I just assumed it wouldn't work. I hope I am not setting myself up for a bigger let down. Also at the dr yesterday they said my lining was already up to a 9 (they want it to 8 by the time you O). It seems like everything is going really well, which excites me but makes me look for the other shoe to drop at the same time. Basically, I will be neurotic for the next two weeks.:) I am glad you liked the training session! Are you trying to lose weight or just get in better shape? That is good you are taking a clomid break. It seems to really throw you for a loop. I've heard some people that react bad to clomid do fine with other stuff. Did you go to your appt with the RE on March 7th? I looked at your pics. It is really nice to put a face with a name. You look really beautiful! I guess you just want to tone up, because you sure don't need to lose weight!

Name: Ann | Date: March 16, 2006, 13:49

Answer: I just got back from the dr. I have 3 mature follies!!!!! I have a 21.5, 18, and 17! The follies grow like twice as fast with the meds. My lining is up to a 12--great for implantation. They took blood for estradiol, but I will only get a call if there is a problem. I do the trigger tonight and have the iui on Saturday! I am really excited!!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 16, 2006, 23:26

Answer: Everything sounds like it's going according to plan for you. I am just as excited as you are. It's normal to be excited yet expect the worst. That is just your way of protecting yourself in case it doesn't work. If by chance it doesn't, you know it was just nature and chance because everything is as it should be otherwise. Keep the faith though because you have three mature follicles and that sounds sooooooo promising. I'm so happy for you!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 16, 2006, 23:29

Answer: Oh, and I forgot to mention, that I see this trainer now mostly to lose my ten punds I gained while on clomid, but also to tone and strengthen because I am so out of shape. I was dying on the stairmaster today and dread having to go back and do it again tomorrow. I'm sick of getting sick and having migraines, so he is also going to guide me nutritionally. I want total health. Talk to you tomorrow!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 16, 2006, 23:32

Answer: I meant pounds not punds!

Name: Ann | Date: March 17, 2006, 9:42

Answer: I bet you will feel great after you have gotten into the exercising groove! So, you go again today, too? This will be a tough week! I am glad you found a trainer that wants to help you with nutrition and all the other stuff instead of it being like a meeting to work out. I didn't know clomid had that side effect. Did it make you more hungry or did you just gain weight anyway?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 17, 2006, 11:32

Answer: Went to the gym again today--yeah!!!! It's a big deal for me because I've had my membership since July and had gone probably like five times--thus the trainer and accountability. My doctor didn't think that my sudden weight gain was from clomid, but it is listed as a side effect and it happened to me and other women I've read on forums. My trainer says it's definitely from the clomid. It makes you put on water weight. I do not have the type of body that just puts on weight out of nowhere either and it was five pounds a month, each month I was on the stuff. Anyhoo.....did you do the trigger shot? When is your IUI? Does DH have to do his thing in a cup for that or how does that work?

Name: Ann | Date: March 17, 2006, 11:42

Answer: Hi Tracy. I did the trigger--didn't hurt at all (whew). I stress more with new shots, but that one was a breeze as far as physical pain goes. Yes, dh has to do the cup thing. Every time up to now he has done his thing at home, but this dr wants it done at the office. Dh is a little stress about that, but I know he can do it! His part is so much easier that he knows not to complain to me at this point (after the shots especially). From your pics, you definitely don't look like you would be prone to random weight gains! If it was all water weight, would it not go away shortly after stopping clomid? Any fun weekend plans??

Name: Tracy | Date: March 17, 2006, 12:13

Answer: Never any fun weekend plans....DH doesn't have time right now since his business is booming. But that's OK since the better the business does, the easier life actually gets for both of us. We plan on perhaps going to Finland this summer with my mom (that's where she's from) and maybe New Zealand at some point as a deferred honeymoon. Right now though the focus is on affording all the infertility stuff. DH's sister is wealthy though, so she said she'd love to pay if we needed IVF or the like. She said she'd do anything to have a little niece or nephew running around. I am so blessed with the family I married into. They are so good to me and DH. After stopping the clomid, I already feel thinner. You can see a difference in my belly and entire mid-section. I just feel better all around. Did the injectibles mess with your emotions or weight? Any headaches?

Name: Ann | Date: March 17, 2006, 14:27

Answer: The injections did make my stomach feel "puffy" but I didn't really gain any weight. They didn't mess with my emotions, I don't think. I was extra stressed with my needle phobia, but I don't feel different/altered if you know what I mean. I didn't have headaches at all, but I think the acupuncture really helps with that. I have headaches sometimes but I haven't even had one since acupuncture started. Finland would be cool. I have never been there. I have only been across the pond to France, Italy, and Spain. We were going to go to France this May, but I couldn't use my frequent flyer miles. We plan to go next year. Have you been to Europe a lot?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 17, 2006, 14:57

Answer: I have only been to Finland and Sweden, but fly through France. I have gone probably 6 to 8 times in my life. I would love to see France, Italy, Spain, Greece, etc... but my dream trip is New Zealand. I think it has to be the single most beautiful place I have ever seen.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 18, 2006, 9:29

Answer: Ann-how was the IUI??? Do tell.....

Name: Ann | Date: March 18, 2006, 19:24

Answer: Hi Tracy. Iui went well. Dh's sample was great--over 100mil after the washing! I've heard that anything over 30mil doesn't increase chances, but I figure it can't hurt. My lining was up to 12 and Friday's estradiol was 700 something. All is well for a good cycle. The only thing that worries me is that I haven't had any ewcm. I hope the trigger made me O as it should. The dr said my cervix was open and he could see cm, so I hope it is ok. How are you doing? Are you going to track your O this month as usual and try on a natural cycle?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 19, 2006, 14:10

Answer: Everything sounds like it is going well!!! I will be tracking my ovulation with OPK's this month. I bought a fertility monitor, but got it too late to start this cycle. I think I'll pee on a stick in a little while. Today is cd9, so just in case I ovulate early I want to start doing them today. We are still going to baby dance as if trying, but I don't have much faith in my left ovary since on a clomid cycle I had not produced any good follicles. Well, gonna go have lunch...starving right now. Glad to hear things are going so well...I hope it's your turn!

Name: Ann | Date: March 19, 2006, 14:29

Answer: Glad you are on with the plan. How do you know you will have follies on the left?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 21, 2006, 10:32

Answer: Hey Ann- I don't know that I will have follies on the left, that is why I am switching doctors, so these things can be monitored. Last time I ovulated on the left, my day21 progesterone level indicated that I did ovulate, although compared to the right ovary, it was much less productive. There's a lot I don't even understand about the left ovary, and what would cause such a difference between the two, but like I said, that is why I switched doctors. I liked the guy I had, but felt answerless sometimes. Just met a lady in the sauna yesterday who saw the doctor I am going to see, and had two beautiful sons because of him. This doctor has such a good reputation. I can't wait to see him. How are you holding up in the TWW?? I am only on cd11 and I know I ovulated yesterday, so I guess that makes me in the wait as well. Let me know how you are doing...

Name: Ann | Date: March 21, 2006, 10:51

Answer: Welcome to the 2ww! I can't believe I am only 3dpo. It is taking forever. Did you not keep the appt you had on March 7th? I am glad you are going to talk to someone else.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 21, 2006, 13:45

Answer: No, I didn't keep the appointment I had on the 7th because I had not gotten some necessary paperwork from my insurance company yet and knew it wouldn't come in time. So now I wait till the 12th. The paperwork has been dealt with. The TWW should be called the Torturous two week wait because it just drags on and on. I had more ewcm a little while ago, but don't know if it was from my body or DH's. We baby danced last night, but my body doesn't usually hold on to his swimmers once I get up to go pee, so I think it was ewcm. I am out of OPK's....really should go buy more.

Name: Ann | Date: March 21, 2006, 14:58

Answer: So, you already got a positive opk, didn't you? Hopefully the little swimmers just got way up there to stay! So now you don't go in until April 12th? Will that be in time to do something on your next cycle if you don't get a BFP this time?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 21, 2006, 19:46

Answer: I'm pretty sure I got a positive OPK. The line was almost as dark as the test line on Sunday, and then Monday it was lighter. Those were the only two pee sticks I had and I just assumed I was ovulating, but now, well, I'm not so sure. I would have been sure if I had not seen that glob of stuff come out of me today. TMI-I know. I'm not usually this airheaded, but I have spent all of my cash reserves on healthy food and supplements, and don't want to ask DH for another dime this week. I have just robbed him blind lately, so I'm trying to give him a break. If I could remember to take my temp in the morning I might not be having this discussion right now. Anyway, if AF arrives on day 28 as it should, my appointment will be exactly six days later. I know, too late to start something. I will call them to see if they get any opening earlier and impress upon them how important it is that I see him sooner.

Name: Nicole | Date: March 21, 2006, 20:05

Answer: I have never been on this site before. I am a first time clomid user after 3 years unsuccessful trying for baby number three. I am on day 21 today and was wondering the same thing I ovulated on day 20 and was wondering when and if I could be excited. I have only had one person I kno use clomid and she only had 3 days of 25 clomid and fell pregnant that month so I assumed if I didnt fall there was something more wrong with me. Not that it is a good thing you guys are feeling like me but I felt so much better knowing I am not alone. Do you guys have other children?

Name: Ann | Date: March 22, 2006, 11:43

Answer: Hi Nicole. Welcome to the thread. How lucky you are to already have 2 children! I am ttc for #1 and have never been pg before. I did clomid for 5 or 6 months without sucess, so don't get too worried yet if you have only tried it once. Good luck!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 22, 2006, 19:13

Answer: Hey Nicole, welcome! I did three months of clomid and did not work for me either, but it does work for a lot of women. I thought I'd save up my other three tries with it for when I see my new doctor in case he wants to combine it with something else. DH is talking about going straight for IVF though. My sister got PG on her second cycle of clomid, so I just assumed it would work for me. There is so far nothing wrong with me and I have had a number of tests. We shall see though. Ann, where are you in your cycle, about 5 or 6 dpo? How are you feeling?

Name: Ann | Date: March 22, 2006, 19:35

Answer: I am only 4dpo...taking forever...I started taking progesterone today and I have one last shot to take tonight. The end of the 2ww seems like an eternity. Do you feel anything?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 23, 2006, 19:12

Answer: Yeah, I feel like if I have to have scheduled sex one more time I'm gonna puke. I love my husband, but I am dying for some regular old sex, you know, the kind that you crave. I feel like I'm ovulating too. I have felt that way for days now though. I'm just going to chalk this month up as a joke; a total waste of time. DH wants to do the dance tonight to be safe, but I really want nothing to do with it. HELP!!!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 23, 2006, 19:22

Answer: I know exactly how you feel. I love my dh, too, and am still very attracted to him, but there have been times...try to hang in there. If you got your positive opk on Sunday, you should be all done this cycle, though. Hopefully you have the egg with sperm inside sailing down your tubes as we speak!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 24, 2006, 18:44

Answer: It's so nice to know other women have gone through the same things. I feel like this TWW is just going to drag on and on. Hey, I lost almost 5 pounds since last Thursday when I started working out with my trainer! I have been eating soooo well, and exercising, and it is starting to pay off. Thank God for this trainer!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 24, 2006, 19:02

Answer: Wow, 5lbs. That is a lot! You only have 7 to go!! Yeah, there is really no way anyone can understand what we go through unless they have done/are doing it. I cringe every time I think of a coworker of mine asking another coworker of mine that was having ttc problems w/his wife how it was going and if she was pg yet. I never thought about how invasive that was at the time. I thought it was a little too personal, but I sure do get it now!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 25, 2006, 8:56

Answer: I would like to lose about 10 more pounds. The more I look at my fat content, the more I realize how much it actually weighs. We are going to start more of the weight training now, so I may actually just balance out between muscle and fat, and not be able to go by weight. He measured my fat content before we started, so we have to go by that and take a measure each month. Today is 7dpo for you right? Only 7 more to go!!!!! I need to go for a walk now, so I'd better go before it never happens!

Name: Ann | Date: March 25, 2006, 15:38

Answer: Yep, 7dpo. Normally, I would test at about 10dpo. Tuesday doesn't sound as far away as next weekend!! I don't think the weight number means much. Just pay attention to how you feel and how your clothes fit. It always feels good to put on that favorite pair of jeans and have them not be tight at all! How many dpo are you now?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 25, 2006, 19:11

Answer: IF I ovulated when I think I did, I am only 5dpo. I put on a pair of pants that have gotten a little too small on me recently, and they still don't fit. I know the scale is not lying, and I see the difference in my legs, face and arms, but I have yet to see significant progress in my mid-section. It will come off there too, that's just gonna take time. I'm keeping hopes up to hear about your BFP!!!! Keep me posted on how you are feeling....

Name: Ann | Date: March 25, 2006, 23:58

Answer: I have sore boobs now and I keep trying to ignore it, because I know it is just from the meds. I don't think next weekend will ever get here. Are you doing anything this weekend? I am just hanging at home and trying to catch up on some work. Two of my dh's brothers are here visiting, so they are out and I am home w/my stepson. I didn't want to go out with them, because I don't want it to be noticed that I am not drinking. I also had acupuncture today and I have a French lesson tomorrow. Lazy weekend!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 26, 2006, 9:20

Answer: When I was on clomid, my boobs always got really sore post ovulation, so I can relate. My boobs never get sore, so the first month I thought for sure I had gotten PG. Hang in there. Keep yourself busy, and the time will pass quicker than you think. I think it's awesome that you are taking French lessons. I took four years of it in school instead of Spanish because I thought it was such a beautiful language and both my sister and I loved the culture. Spanish would have come in more handy though since I lived in the heart of Miami for many years, but I don't regret it. I have since forgotten what I learned, but hope to brush up on it before getting to visit France one day. Today I may see my mom, I'm not sure. She is at her condo here this weekend, but apparently has been busy dating this weekend!!!! We had plans for dinner last night, and she brushed me off (which she never does) but would not say why. It's really funny. We have been trying to find her a man for years and now, she is doing it on her own. She deserves some happiness. Hope you enjoy your acupuncture. Talk to you soon.

Name: Ann | Date: March 26, 2006, 10:14

Answer: I hope your mom finds someone. My parents were married for 28 years and got divorced. From the time they divorced until my mom died, was about 16 years and my mom never dated or met anyone. She would act like she didn't care, but I know she was lonely. I never took French in school unfortunately. I started trying to learn after visiting one of the French islands in the Caribbean about 8 years ago. I can get around ok, but I don't speak very well. I have a very difficult time understanding when someone is speaking at a normal pace. Now I take private lessons. I take my stepson, too, because I want him to learn while his is young and hopefully he will have an easier time. We plan to go back to France in May 2007 unless I am at a stage of pg or have a little baby by then. I know what you mean about Spanish being more practical. I live in Dallas and there is a big Hispanic population here. I definitely want to stick with French, though!! I hope our 2wws pass quickly. I will be out of town Monday and Tuesday for college campus interviews, so that should help the start of my week to go quickly! Do you have your normal work week this week?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 26, 2006, 22:47

Answer: I am having a normal work week for me. I work about four days a week, anywhere from 5 to 8 hours each shift. I work at Pottery Barn Kids now and love it. It is so easy and very stress free and I love seeing all the babies and baby stuff. It's actually been very helpful insofar as boosting me out of depression. It seems to give me hope to hear some of the stories women tell me about what they went through to have the child they are pushing around in a stroller, or carrying in their belly. Not to mention the discount I get on all that cute merchandise. Frivolous, I know, but it's fun. Dallas huh??? That's cool, I went there once a very long time ago. Have you always lived there or are you a transplant??? I have always lived in Florida and am sooooo ready for a change. We think we may move to Boston; however, in the car a little while ago DH started talking about how cool it might be to live in London. London sounds cool, but I think I'd like to stay closer to our families, especially since we will have kids (somehow). Gonna go fold the laundry. Check in tomorrow. Feeling OK?????

Name: Ann | Date: March 26, 2006, 23:11

Answer: I feel ok. I am stressing about all the work I have to do this week, but that is pretty normal. I moved to Dallas right out of college, so I am a transplant. It seems like there are a lot of transplants here. I guess because the job market is good here. I absolutely loved Boston the one time I visited there. It is a really cool city. Have you been there often? London would definitely be cool, but you are right about how being near family would be helpful with kids. I am really glad you like your new job!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 27, 2006, 8:24

Answer: Believe it or not, I have never been to Boston, but DH went to school there. He studied Classical Composition at Berkley. He used to love to write and play music, but is now a computer programmer with his own business. He loved Boston for its sense of culture/ history and the fact that it is Liberal and loaded with good schools. He said he'd take me there soon. I have heard nothing but great things about it from anyone I talk to in reference to moving there. Well, I have to get ready for work. I hate going in this early, I will be missing my morning workout and have to make it up after work. Yuck! Peace!!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 27, 2006, 10:46

Answer: Living in TX, I can definitely appreciate the thought of living in a more liberal city!lol If not for dh (the fact that he has a son here), I would have probably moved to Chicago by now. You will like Boston. It is such a walking city and the North End is cool with all the small Italian restaurants.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 27, 2006, 22:50

Answer: Speaking of food, I could really go for something other than salad! My DH eats waffles and bagels in front of me and I just want to knock him out and steal his goods!!! I have been eating super healthy for 8 days now. I feel great, dropped some weight, but could really go for a Chick-fil-a chicken sandwich. Can you tell I am craving something yummy?? Oh, a cinnamon roll would be awesome. I have been to Chicago. I liked it. Was only there for a day, but shopped and ate Italian downtown. Also went up in Sears Tower. Texas to me is too much like Florida.....gets too damn hot there. Gotta go give my husband some attention.

Name: Stephanie | Date: March 28, 2006, 23:31

Answer: Hi ladies, I've been reading your posts. I got to this particular one because Ann, you said you take Parlodel. Do you mind my asking if you take that for elevated Prolactin levels? I started it this cycle for that but I was told to keep taking it until I get pregnant so I was wondering why you only do for the first two weeks? Also, is it supposed to prolong follicular development? Do you know if it effects BBT? My temp has been way lower than normal since I took it. Maybe I didn't ovulate this month. Please let me know. Thanks

Name: Ann | Date: March 29, 2006, 10:41

Answer: Hi Stephanie. I don't have elevated prolactin levels. My dr uses it in combination with Lupron to suppress your system before doing the ovulation stimulating drugs. To I don't know what purpose it serves in the suppression for someone like me that doesn't have high prolactin. It is only given for the 2 weeks, because it is not a medication you want to be taking after you conceive. I also don't know about if it affects bbt, because I don't temp. Sorry I am not more helpful! Are you only taking the Parlodel for prolactin issues? Are you doing ivf or iui? What other meds will you be taking? Tracy, did you break down on your diet and get some indulgence food?? Feel anything yet? I tested this morn and got a BFN (cd11). I am glad to know that the hcg is out of my system, so just in case the seemingly impossible happens, I will know that it isn't a false +.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 29, 2006, 20:58

Answer: Nope, did not cave on the diet once yet!!! Do I feel anything??? Uh........no. I feel very normal, which is really ok by me this month. After three months straight of the clomid nightmare, I am good just feeling like me for now. I am ready to start something new though, so hopefully soon I'll embark on a new journey. Sorry about the BFN, even though it is a positive thing knowing that the hcg is out of your system. I don't care if I test 5 days post ovulation, I want to see a BFP!!! We will, in time, I just know it!!! Anyway, nothing else to report except I am down 6 pounds and holding steady!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 30, 2006, 10:13

Answer: Tracy, I am glad you are feeling so well and are in such good spirits! I got another BFN today...dh said not to test again until Saturday, but I will test tomorrow. I think testing every day helps me ease into the acceptance of the BFN. Nothing else new w/me.

Name: Tracy | Date: March 30, 2006, 19:13

Answer: I'll keep you in my thoughts.....I sure hope a BFP surprises you!!! Has your doctor mentioned what next cycle will bring if no BFP? Stay positive......baby dust to you!

Name: Ann | Date: March 30, 2006, 19:34

Answer: If no BFP, I plan to do 2 more iuis (my insurance will actually cover 3 more so maybe 3) with injectibles. I keep thinking that I don't know how I will stand those injections, but when the time comes, I guess I will do what I have to do. I really hope it doesn't come to ivf. The thought of doing those progesterone shots terrifies me to no end. How are you doing?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 31, 2006, 8:33

Answer: What is it about the progesterone shots that make them different or worse than injections?? I'm new at all the IUI/IVF/Injectibles stuff. I've been trying to read more about it all though, because I know that's where I'm heading. I'm feeling quite well. My trainer worked my legs yesterday, so I can't really walk, but I have to go to the gym now to try and free up the lactic acid in my legs that's making them so sore. I do not know how I am going to do it, but I have to exercise. I'll check in on ya later. I hope you are feeling pregnant!!!!

Name: Ann | Date: March 31, 2006, 10:18

Answer: When you do ivf, you have to take progesterone shots every day for about 6 weeks. The progesterone is in oil and it is supposed to hurt like hell and make your skin get raw and welted. It sounds horrible...I got another BFN this morn and I am pretty sure af is on her way...good luck at your workout!

Name: Tracy | Date: March 31, 2006, 13:15

Answer: Still holding out hope for you!!! BUT, just know that one of these times, something is going to work. Never lose your faith. I read on another forum a quote that I like: "Don't let it shake your faith.....what you see is only a broken piece of a perfect whole." Written by Cadfael. I'm pretty much Buddhist, so I don't really pray per se, but I do believe in the way the universe works, and at some point you will be given some relief from this strenuous journey. Just keep on keepin on!

Name: Ann | Date: March 31, 2006, 15:01

Answer: Buddhism is something I have always intended to read up on. I am not into any organized religious things, so Buddhism seems like it might be something I would agree with. I do think religion is interesting from a sociological/psychological standpoint, though. I am still holding out a very small hope. How did the workout go? Legs feel any better?

Name: Tracy | Date: March 31, 2006, 23:15

Answer: I am very much like you when it comes to religion, that is how I found Buddhism. One of my favorite Buddhist quotes is, "When the moon of your mind becomes clouded over by confusion.... you are searching for the light outside." My entire family is Christian, and doesn't understand my lack of connection with their beliefs. I'm not the black sheep or anything, I just don't share the same views they do. My sister won't even use my Buddha bathroom because it offends her. It's just decorated, it's not a temple!!!! Workout went well, still don't know how I made it through since I can't even walk still. My niece is coming to stay with me for her spring break tomorrow, so I will try to check back as often as possible. I really hope to hear good news.

Name: Ann | Date: April 1, 2006, 8:43

Answer: That is funny your sis won't use your bathroom! My family is Christian I guess, but no one in my immediate family (sibs/parents) ever really attended church. My dh and I are on the same page, and my best friend is an atheist. I went to a Unitarian church a while ago, but I haven't been to one here in Dallas. The one I went to before was great--they just discussed topics in the service and would tell what different religions say about the topic, what famous writers wrote about the topic, etc. It was never "you should believe this" or "that is the 'right' way." Those are the things I don't like about most religion. It is too judgmental most of the time. I also can't stand being around people that want to "recruit" you to their belief system either. Enough of that rant...I didn't test this morning. I worked until 9:00 last night, so the dollar store was closed and I am out of tests! Are you feeling any signs? Are you doing anything with your niece this weekend? Hope you have a good visit!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 2, 2006, 9:54

Answer: No signs for me. At all. Going to go to the beach with my niece after I get back from the gym. I will check back later to see if you bought more pee sticks!!! I'm on the edge of my seat here!!!!!!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 2, 2006, 9:56

Answer: Just wanted to add that our views on religion are identical.

Name: Ann | Date: April 2, 2006, 13:23

Answer: Unfortunately af arrived. I had a rough day yesterday. I can't believe I stuck 23 needles in my stomach and got nothing back for it at all. So depressing! I feel better today. I am starting to plan out my next steps and that makes me feel better. I think I am going to set up an ivf consult, since I have to switch drs to do ivf. But, I am going to do another injectible iui next month. I hope all is well with you. Have a fun weekend!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 3, 2006, 9:11

Answer: Ann- that's a bitch, I am so sorry. I know how hard it is to go through so much only to get nothing in return. I am looking into IVF for sure. I really think that when DH talks with this new doctor, he is going to opt for IVF too; it's just a feeling I have. Went to the beach for a bit yesterday, then out to dinner with my in-laws. It was my one year wedding anniversary. The weather here is awesome for the time being. It's not muggy and humid yet, so still pleasant. I should be starting AF soon, so we will be on close schedules. I'm not sure what cycle day I am on. My agenda is in the car. I just know it's getting closer to the end. I'll check in on you later. I really hope you feel better. My heart goes out to you.

Name: Ann | Date: April 3, 2006, 11:39

Answer: I feel better now that the initial shock has worn off. I am waiting for the dr to call me now to see if I need to come to the office or do another suppression 2 weeks. Glad to hear your weather is so nice. We hit 92 yesterday! I am not quite ready for the summer heat. Hope all is well with you. Maybe we will end up going through ivf together. Do you have your new RE appt on April 12th still?

Name: Tracy | Date: April 4, 2006, 8:32

Answer: 92 degrees???? That sucks! Yep, I still have my appointment for the 12th. I called and they have nothing sooner. Records are being sent over from old doctor today. They are literally across the street from each other. Been busy with my niece. Have to go to the gym now. I haven't been very focused while there for a couple of days...need to get on the ball.

Name: Ann | Date: April 4, 2006, 10:08

Answer: I left my RE a voicemail on Saturday (no return call), and then I left him another one right after lunch yesterday and he didn't call me back until about 7. I had to explain everything, because he doesn't have my records from his old office. To make a long story short, he called me in Parlodel and BCPs, and I started last night with another suppression for 2 weeks. So, I am doing nothing for a couple weeks now. Hope all is well with you and that you are having a fun week!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 5, 2006, 9:46

Answer: Hang in there. It will all be worth it in the end. That's easy for me to say, even though I'm the one who completely fell apart the first time clomid didn't work for me:) My niece and I are having a good time. We went to the beach yesterday and I got fried on my back side. Tomorrow I am taking her to this killer water park we have here. Something she doesn't have in Indiana and is still young enough to have a blast at. Well, gotta run. Check back in tonight. CD 26 for me and no sign of AF so far, but know I am not PG. Peace!!!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 7, 2006, 10:17

Answer: Just checking to see if you are OK. Hope things are well.

Name: Ann | Date: April 7, 2006, 12:52

Answer: Hi Tracy. Somehow I missed your last message! It sounds like you are having a good time this week, and that is good ttc relaxing therapy. I am just in a holding pattern for 10 more days (actually about 2 weeks before meds will likely start). I know you don't like to test, so how late will you have to be before you test? A woman on another thread where I post just found out she was pg and she was positive she wasn't and that af was on the way.

Name: Tracy | Date: April 7, 2006, 20:45

Answer: I hate to break the news to you, but AF is really gonna show. I saw slight pink on the TP and feel the cramps. I knew it would not happen for me this month, but am still sad that miracles don't happen to me. I wish this nightmare would end on a positive note soon. I'm so over feeling like a failure. So, you are in a holding pattern, huh?? That's got to suck too. What did the doctor say about the odds of pregnancy with injections??? I'm just curious, because I'll probably end up doing them. Some friends of mine on another thread are doing them right now and are complaining of headaches. Did you experience any headaches??? I am prone to them, so I am really scared to go there. Well, I'll check in on ya soon.

Name: Ann | Date: April 8, 2006, 9:05

Answer: That is too bad about af. I just hate her! I can't remember the exact stats about injections, but they have much better results than clomid. The only side effect I had from the injections was a "puffy" stomach. That went away within a few days of stopping the injections. I never gained weight, but my stomach felt different. So no, I didn't have any headaches. From what I have heard people say on the board, the injections have fewer side effects than clomid for most people. Are you thinking of doing injections/iui first before ivf? If so, I think that is a good idea. Yep, still in the holding pattern and it does suck!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 8, 2006, 10:49

Answer: AF is here!!!! I see new doc on CD5. I have no idea what we will try. DH is going with me to this new guy on Wednesday, so I know we will have a plan at that point. My husband likes answers, that's why I insisted that he go. I'm tired of him questioning my ability to get results from these doctors. Going to get ready for work. Talk to you later!

Name: Ann | Date: April 8, 2006, 16:48

Answer: Man, Tracy, I wish you could go sooner. With injectibles, you normally start taking them on cd3. You could always do clomid, though, starting on cd5 and maybe do an iui. My RE likes the dhs to be there during the consultation appts for some reason. I always think, "Hello! My dh remembers nothing from these details." It is good for your dh to hear the plan first hand. I hope you like the new dr.

Name: Monica | Date: April 9, 2006, 19:23

Answer: Hi ladies, I was just surfing this site and found you all here - hope it's okay if I just join in the conversation. I've been ttc #1 for 2 years (!) am 36 years old, and I'm on my first round of Clomid (50mg). I'm wondering..what days did your docs have you taking Clomid? My doc wanted me to take it Day 1-5 because he said more women became pg than those who took it days 3-7 or 5-9. Actually, a woman I know took it days 1-5 and is now pg. I didn't do 1-5 this last cycle because he wanted my FSH levels tested on Day 3 (and Clomid would interfere with that result apparently). Anyway, if I'm not pg this cycle (will know next week - I hope I am!), I plan to do the Day 1-5. What do you all think? Baby Dust and good luck to you all!!!

Name: Ann | Date: April 9, 2006, 23:43

Answer: Hi Monica, welcome and jump on in! My dr had me take clomid on days3-7 and 5-9, but I have also read that days1-5 may be better. Did your cd3 fsh come out ok? Did you do the clomid challenge test where they retest your fsh on cd10? Good luck that you will get a BFP this time!

Name: Tracy | Date: April 10, 2006, 10:10

Answer: Hey Monica, welcome!!! I took clomid days 5-9, but this last cycle was told I could do it 3-7. I opted out of doing it at all this cycle since going to see new doc on Wednesday and didn't want to waste a cycle without IUI or something. I too have read that the earlier days produce more pregnancies. I would do it earlier since I know days 5-9 did not work for me. Well, going to take my niece to my mom's, I'll check back in later.

Name: Tracy | Date: April 10, 2006, 20:58

Answer: See, Ann that is why I am switching doctors.....my doc never did the clomid challenge. He just took a day21 progesterone test to see if I ovulated. One more day until I get some answers and some sort of plan. I am on cd3 today and have awful cramps. This is not normal for me. Usually by now I am feeling great. Haven't worked out in three days due to AF and cramps.....what's up with that???

Name: Ann | Date: April 10, 2006, 21:02

Answer: I wonder if it is too late to do the CCT this month, since you will be on cd4 tomorrow. It would be nice if you could jump right into it!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 11, 2006, 23:44

Answer: Hey Ann, my appointment is at 2:00 with this new guy. I'll let you know what he says....how's the waiting going for you? Boring???

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 12, 2006, 17:46

Answer: Where are you Tracy?? How did your appt go? Yes, my ttc life is very boring right now. I can't keep up with work and home, though, so it is good timing to not have dr visits, etc.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 12, 2006, 21:34

Answer: hey Ann...my appointment went very well. I really like and trust this new guy. He is sharp as a tack. DH is having his sperm checked again on Monday....we may have morphology issues, so may be headed straight for ICSI and IVF. If his new analysis yields positive results, we will be doing injectibles. Monday we will know. Well, I have a migraine, so I have to lay down. I'll check in tomorrow when I am able to concentrate better. Hugs.....

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 13, 2006, 11:27

Answer: I am so glad you like the RE!! Had your dh been checked before? Will you start the injectibles next cycle if you do injectibles/iui? My dh just called and my meds arrived at home. I probably won't start them for another week, though. I don't have any online pics like you do, but I have some digital pics on my computer now. If you want to send me an email to ann8675309@hotmail.com (my email I just set up to post on the board) I will forward you a pic.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 13, 2006, 13:37

Answer: Yeah, DH had his sperm checked in November, but this guy wants a current analysis and he wants it done in his lab so he can be absolutely certain about what we are facing. My old doctor told me DH was fine, but when I picked up my records and read through them I noticed that it said 94% severely amorphic (morphology). That does not sound good to me, but we shall see what the new test reveals and determine if they can wash and do IUI or go straight to ICSI/IVF. His overall count was great and so was motility, etc....so, I don't know. IF his sperm are OK we will probably try a cycle of injectibles or two. The doc will be doing his next round of IVF in July. He does it four times a year in groups of 25 to 30 couples, and he just did one in March/April, so we missed that boat. I'm ok with waiting till july though. I'll send you an email now. I would love to see a picture!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 13, 2006, 17:20

Answer: Hey Tracy. I never got an email from you. Let me know if you sent it. That is unusual that your dr only does ivf 4x/year. What a good idea to manage his schedule!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 13, 2006, 22:54

Answer: Hey, I did email you at like 1:30 this afternoon, but apparently it did not work. Should I try again?? When this doc has IVF cycles he has his teams working 24/7. I think he likes to do it in spurts because he does need time to evaluate and spend time with patients and doesn't want to be running ragged like so many doctors out there......like the one I just left. He has one office as opposed to the 4 places my old doctor was running around to all week. Mind you, he is also in a very wealthy location, so he can pretty much kick back and not kill himself to make his mortgage payments, etc...

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 14, 2006, 11:04

Answer: Hey Tracy. I just checked my email, and I didn't get anything from you. Odd! I got my meds last night. I got a bunch of Menopurs, which I am not happy about because it hurts! I also got some estradiol patches (not sure why).

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 14, 2006, 13:08

Answer: Hey, I tried emailing you again just now. I hope it works. Your doctor did not explain the reason for these meds??? I take it they are different from last cycle's??? Well, I have officially lost 7 of my 12 clomid pounds!!!! Yesterday I was down 8 pounds, but I'm kind-of constipated so I'm sure I'm a couple pounds less than the scale says. LOL:)))) I was feeling kind-of depressed this morning. I was on the stairmaster and just broke out in tears. I think I am just spent with all the TTC stuff and can't understand why this is happening to me. Not that I'm above anybody else, but really none of us deserve this when there are total idiots out there having babies that they can't even feed. I'm also feeling the impact of my career change....going from teaching to a lower paying job. It was meant to relieve stress so we could conceive, but now I am stressed because I never have enough money to just go and get what I need without having to bother DH. He always tells me to just tell him when I need money, but I have a hard time doing that.....so I struggle behind his back. I know I don't make sense. Anyway, have to get ready for work, will check in tonight. Let me know if you got the email.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 14, 2006, 15:02

Answer: I got your email this time! Let me know if you receive mine back. Sorry that you are feeling so down today. I know exactly what you mean about it not being fair with some people who get pg that don't even really want it and/or can't take care of a baby. I was discussing that on another post just today. You have had a lot of changes in your life recently! That would drive me crazy, too, with the money thing. Hopefully soon you will be a mom! I think you will be pg before too long. If nothing else, you will have success with ivf, since there is nothing wrong with you. Congrats on the 7/8lbs!! That is great.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 14, 2006, 23:16

Answer: Hey Ann, I did get your email. You are stunning! What a great couple you are! And is that your house or what???? That place is fabulous!! The career change sucks just because I was never in to teaching anyway, just the paycheck I was receiving. And now??? Well, to put it lightly, I think there are migrant workers who make more than I do:)))) Anyway, I am making due. My husband just gives me soooo much, that I hate asking for more. I will see what our TTC future holds when DH's sperm analysis comes back. Has your doctor given you a quote on how much IVF costs?? With my new doc it costs $15,000. I know people have paid less, but are they getting top notch care?? This guy is so highly recommended by such a variety of people, that I don't know if I should look for a lower price or stick with who I know is good.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 15, 2006, 10:36

Answer: Thanks. I wish that was my house! It is the place we stayed on our wedding night in Tuscany, Italy. Wow, $15K is the highest, by far, that I have ever heard. The most I have heard before is $11K. The range I have heard from other people is $8K-$11K. My dr told me what it costs with him a long time ago, but it went in one ear and out the other. Since he does not take my insurance, I will not be doing ivf with him. I actually need to double check to make sure he still does not take my insurance, since he started his own practice. How is your weekend going? I just slep for 10 much-needed hours!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 15, 2006, 20:31

Answer: You know, I checked into getting married in Tuscany, but not all of my immediate family would have been able to make it, so we settled on DH's parent's backyard. They live on a golf course, which was quite nice, but it was no Tuscany. It was a typical tropical, Florida setting. We seem to have a lot in common though. I think that's cool. You know, I knew IVF wasn't that expensive, but at this point I'd probably pay anything as long as I know the doctor has his crap together. Now I don't know what to do. Should I simply call around and ask for prices? Or do you think I will have to go in for consultations?? I worked today and I am off tomorrow. I would like to get some sun tomorrow, but hate going to beach by myself. I'll check in with my sister in law (visiting from New York) and see what they are doing. Well, going to go rent a movie now. When do you think you will start your meds???

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 16, 2006, 11:33

Answer: Hey Ann, well I talked to my husband about the steep price of IVF with the new doc. He feels so confident in this doctor that he knows exactly why his price is so high, and is willing to pay it. I felt the same way too, but I always question myself. DH compared it to various computer companies and the prices they charge in relation to what you really get. And he wasn't just talking about typical PC purchases; he was talking about high end business solutions in which service and quality are of upmost importance. Anyway, I understood exactly where he was coming from, and since he sat in that appointment with me, I trust his opinion. My husband is very saavy in business and very careful with money, so if he says he's willing to pay the high price, I'm going with that. I feel better now. We'd be paying for personal touches that other doctors don't provide and definitely top of the line care. Well, just thought I'd tell you that since I was asking about what to do. Have a great day!!! I'm going to attempt to roller blade now. I think it's been about a year, so let's hope I don't fall on my face!!!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 16, 2006, 19:17

Answer: We didn't have the issue with family attending, since we eloped!:) The only person we told was my best friend (she came to Italy). I am glad you made a decision for your ivf dr. Are you trying injectibles in the meantime? What does he do with the ivf cycle that other drs don't? I should start me meds this Friday or Saturday, depending on when af shows. NOT looking forward to it...

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 16, 2006, 21:41

Answer: I just wanted my mother and my two sisters at my wedding. I always have, but especially since I got married at the age of 35, it meant so much for them to see me actually get married. We were all shocked it was finally going to happen after all these years. We looked into eloping, but it would not have been the same without them there. Anyway, we may try injectibles next month, but it all depends on how DH's sperm turn out. He is taking his sample in tomorrow morning, and then in about 5 to 7 days we should have the results. It takes four days for an analysis to be completed, and then the doctor reviews it and calls DH. We have to wait for that since it is possible that DH has a morphology issue. If he does, we will need IVF with ICSI, and injectibles would be a waste of time and money. About the doctor: he brings in specialists from all over S. Florida to perform his IVF cycles with him. They work 24/7 during the cycles and will call you at a moments notice to come in, etc... The people he brings in are the best in their fields, so he is sure that his patients are getting the best service possible. Imagine how much care it takes to do ICSI etc.... so he brings in enough people to be able to handle the amount of patients they have who may need it. He said....he would rather bring in the specialists and know that his clients are getting the best in every area of concern and that there are enough people on the job, which ensures fewer mistakes etc....Someone who does IVF all year long may get burnt out or simply lose clarity. Have I made any sense? Those are just some of the things we like about him. Not to mention his credentials and reputation. I feel confident in him. Like DH said, with someone like him you really are paying for piece of mind. Anyway....when do you expect AF? You've been on BCP's right??? Have a great Monday!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 17, 2006, 10:16

Answer: Another thing we have in common--I was 34 when I got married. Dh and I had been together for 4.5 years at that point. Most people, I think, feel that way about wanting family to be at their wedding, but as you can probably tell from how I don't tell anyone we are even ttc that I am not into spreading news and being "inclusive." Plus, I hate being the center of attention. That is why this board is so good for me. Otherwise, I would internalize everything.:) That is a bummer you have to wait 5-7 days for the SA. Ours only took 24 hours! My last BCP was last night, so I am just waiting for af...I have a crazy week this week, so I am really glad I won't start the shots until probably Friday or Saturday. Today at 3 I have to go out of town for recruiting and will be back at about 2am; tomorrow I have a dinner at one of our Partner's houses for our spring interns; Wednesday I go out of town for recruiting and flu in Thursday morning and go straight to a client's office and will have to work late; Friday night I have a baseball game with our interns; and Saturday night I have a client dinner. Last night dh was away all night and kept me up. I am going to be dead by the end of the week...are you going to check for O and everything this month and just try naturally?

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 17, 2006, 21:37

Answer: Wow, you are going to be busy, so if I don't hear from you, I'll know why. DH's sperm were analyzed right when he walked through the door with them, but then they test them again in 3 days to see what they are left with. Could be that they die off quickly, etc...so they look at them again. That is when the report ends up on the doctor's desk and he calls us. I have been using the Clearblue fertility monitor so far this cycle. As of yesterday I had no surge, but strangely enough had EWCM and today I forgot to pee on the stick, but had EWCM again. I couldn't do the deed with DH before his test, and now he has nothing left to give me, so I have to wait till tomorrow and hope for the best. Tomorrow is cd11, so if I am not already ovulating, we will be fine. Whatever, you know....until I find out about the little spermies, I can only do so much. Well, have a great, busy week. Don't overdo it, but enjoy!!!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 18, 2006, 11:30

Answer: That is strange about your ewcm. Since it is was only cd11, you will probably still get a surge. Did you test today? I see now why the test is taking longer. That will be good to know how many sperm survive the 3 days. I am so beat today. I got home at 2:30am this morning.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 18, 2006, 11:37

Answer: Well, things can't be going that well for DH's little swimmers. The doctor's office already called me to set up another consult with the doctor. I believe his sperm are telling his story quickly and they already know how things are going to turn out by the end of the analysis. The problem is that the next available appt. is in exactly two weeks. I called the nurse and left a message asking if we can know the results sooner, but still keep the consult. I have a feeling he is going to say our only option is IVF with ICSI. I kind-of knew that already. I'm just pissed that I took 3 cycles of clomid for nothing. I'm sorry you are so beat. On the bright side of things, Friday will come quicker the busier you are! Well, have to get ready for work. Check back later.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 18, 2006, 19:52

Answer: OK, so all my worrying was for nithing and I was wrong about DH's sperm. They are fine, and although his morphology could be better, they are still good enough. They also told me that his "round cells" are high, which could mean he has some sort of infection, so they are going to do a little test, but that it could be as simple as him having a sinus infection or the like. No biggie. Well, now we are back to ME!!!! Chances are we will do the Injectibles with IUI next cycle; however, I am not going to speculate since I was way off about the sperm. Hope all is well with you!!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 18, 2006, 19:53

Answer: Oops, that was supposed to say "nothing".

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 19, 2006, 8:54

Answer: Today is cd12 and my monitor shows I am ovulating!!!!!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 19, 2006, 20:12

Answer: I jumped my husband when he got home from work!!! Let's hope the sperm have a map and can find their way home!!!!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 19, 2006, 20:15

Answer: By the way, I know you are really busy, so I will write to you even if you can't check in very often. I'm not weird, just keeping you up to speed on things!!!!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 20, 2006, 12:44

Answer: Hi Tracy. Just flew in and stopped by home to change clothes on the way to a client. I have been reading your posts on my Blackberry but can't respond on it! I am glad you posted. Af arrived this morning. Called my RE and left a message at 7am. No response yet...irritating. Glad your dh is ok. I will try to check in later.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 21, 2006, 8:26

Answer: This is the first time I can say I'm glad AF showed for you. It's almost time for you to start with the wonderful hormones again. I dropped the ball last night. I was supposed to baby dance with DH, but when it came down to it, I said I was too tired. My sexual morale is in the dumps. I'm tired of having robotic, routine sex only for no BFP. I feel like we've tried everything and am ready to give up. In fact, last night I think I did give up. We have had sex once (night before last) and will hopefully do it tonight (although probably too late), so it will be a true miracle if it happens for me this month. I don't know what's wrong with me. I want this more than anything in the world, but have really just given up at this point. Any advice or suggestions??? Has this happened to you?? I really think some IUI's would help next cycle, don't you? Hope you are well. Check in when you can.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 21, 2006, 10:47

Answer: Yes, it has happend to me. I ended up taking a month off last fall and I felt much better after. I am starting to feel the slide again, but this time I am just trying to stick with it for a couple more months. If I end up with more BFNs after that, I don't know what I will do next. Maybe if you do something romantic it would help--maybe a nice dinner out or something? Yes, I think you should go ahead with iui while you are waiting for ivf. That will increase your chances and you will know about your follies, etc. I hope you feel better!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 21, 2006, 11:44

Answer: Well, like last month, this month is unmedicated, but I have still felt like I can't take a break or give up hope that it can happen; thus, the pressure to get the job done anyway. We don't "do it" as often as we used to and when we do, it's just not natural for me. I really think that IUI's will be helpful too, unless DH still wants to go straight for IVF even though his sperm checked out. Either way, he will have to use a cup, and maybe we can get back to normal otherwise. Hope you have a great day. I work until 10:00 tonight. YUCK!!! I hate closing. Take care.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 22, 2006, 17:26

Answer: Hi Tracy, hope work went well for you. I ended up working almost 70 hours from Monday-Friday...I had my baseline u/s this morning. All is well. I took my first Lupron shot this morning. I will take them twice/day again. I do Follistim Sunday and Monday night as well and see the dr again on Tuesday. I don't have to do any Menopur yet. The dr is giving me a prescription for EMLA (stuff to numb the injection site) that I am going to try w/the Menopur. I hope you have a great weekend! I am headed out to a client dinner in a few hours. I just can't escape work this week...also have fun with your non-mechanical BDing time!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 23, 2006, 0:25

Answer: You know, I was complaining about having to close a stupid store until I read your post and realized that I am there so I can leave my job behind when I clock out. It appears you like what you do, because when I was putting in those kinds of hours I was a miserable person. I complained like you would not believe. I don't hear that from you. I think that's awesome. I always wished I could have found work that I embraced rather than dreaded. My husband swears I just wasn't built for work. I disagree, but I have just been ready to be a mom for a few years now, so have given up interest in busting my ass. Glad to hear you have started your meds and that your hectic week has come to a close. Hopefully soon enough I'll be joining you and can ask you questions about all those meds. Anyway, gonna go lay down now.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 23, 2006, 12:49

Answer: Trust me, I don't enjoy the long hours. I am not one of those people that thrives on work. I would prefer to only work 40 hours per week (or less), but I am the breadwinner and insurance provider, so I know I have to just suck it up and do it!! I complain here and there, especially when I hit the exhaustion point. I didn't hit the exhaustion point this week, since a lot of my work was recruiting and traveling. That mix is much easier than weeks when I have spent 80 hours at my desk only doing international tax work (makes me brain dead). Like you said, I do like what I do. It is really mentally challenging and it changes constantly. I like that. Maybe you just haven't found what you like to do yet or maybe that will be staying at home being a mom.:) I look forward to having you as an injectible buddy, whether that is for iui or ivf w/you. I had a bad shot this morning (Lupron). When I pulled the needle out, it bled really quickly and it bled enough blood to start running down my stomach. Now it is bruised and swollen. Maybe I hit a blood vessel or something. I am not looking forward to tonight (2 shots). The Follistim pen has a really good small needle that doesn't hurt, but the way you have to push down the end of the pen is sort of awkward. I hope you are having a good weekend! Doing anything out of your usual?

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 23, 2006, 23:46

Answer: As far as finding something I enjoy doing....I really love all the artsy careers that make you starve for a number of years. I loved my work in Television Production, but when I was forced to move north, I kind-of ended up too far away from the epicenter, which is Miami, to continue down that path. I also needed to just make the move to L.A. or New York, but life gets complicated and I never made it anywhere. I know this sounds silly coming from a 36 year old, but I had always wanted to become an actress. I ended up getting my degree in Broadcast Journalism to perhaps become a news reporter. I took acting classes on the side and was happiest when I was doing that. I wasn't aggressive enough to do news, it scared me actually. I do think; however, that my new career of choice is motherhood. Obviously that is my priority these days. Well, going to lay down. I have to get up at 6:00 am to do some visual merchandising for the store.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 24, 2006, 12:16

Answer: Motherhood it is for you!! I am sure you will find that as your "calling." It seems like you know yourself well and reflect a lot. I started my shots. If the timing goes as last time, I will trigger Saturday and have iui on Monday. We'll see, though.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 24, 2006, 19:58

Answer: So, is your work schedule back to normal this week? Did you get any sleep this weekend? I am glad you started your shots. Notice any weight gain from them yet? I know I sound pretentious asking such a question, but after my clomid debacle, I just want to know what I'm getting myself into. I hope I can handle the shots. I quit getting my allergy shots because it was annoying and I dreaded them. I'm ok with needles, it's just repeated torture! I'm sorry, my intention is not to make this harder for you than it already is:)))) I am tougher than I sound, I swear! Well, I have had an upset stomach all day, so I am going to chill out and watch some TV. I am wiped!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 25, 2006, 8:45

Answer: Yes, work is pretty normal this week. I have one recruiting trip Thursday, and then we are finished at that school. I have never gained weight from the clomid or any of the injectibles. I don't have an increase on the scale, but my stomach feels puffy and bloated. I felt the same way last time, and it went away after I stopped the meds (took a few days). If you don't totally hate needles, you will do fine with the shots. The needles are really small. The only bad one is Menopur (and I have heard Repronex is too). I have an appt with a potential new RE this morning at 11 and an u/s at my current RE at 1:30. I will be at the dr all day! How does your week look?

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 25, 2006, 10:23

Answer: My week is so wide open that if I don't make it to the gym everyday and clean my house, then we will know I am lazy!!! Why the potential new RE? Just curious. Have you been at your current RE very long or just looking for someone better? Well, I am going to workout now. I feel really drained this week so far, so let's hope I'm not coming down with something. I left the gym after 15 minutes yesterday due to an upset stomach!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 25, 2006, 10:29

Answer: My current RE doesn't take any insurance for ivf. I assume I will have to do ivf, since nothing has worked so far. Also, my current RE is ok (great rep in the community, too), but his old office and new office are both run terribly (he just moved to his own office about a month ago). With my work schedule, I can't afford to sit and wait for an hour every time I go in and they are bad about returning phone calls, too. I am going to see 2 REs (one today and one on May 22) to see if I want to switch. Have a good week! Your week sounds very relaxing.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 25, 2006, 18:03

Answer: I just spoke with my husband again and he seems determined that we do IVF in July. He does not want to pay for IUI's month after month when perhaps it would have only taken one IVF. For him it's about the bottom line. He'd rather pay to get results rather than pay and pay and pay, for nothing to come of it. I have an appointment for a pap tomorrow and see the RE on Tuesday. Today is like cd17 and I am already 6 to 7 days past ovulation. What a long month.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 25, 2006, 18:23

Answer: I just got back home. All the dr stuff took so long that I decided not to go in. Plus, I forgot to put my computer in the car! Wasted day, but it has been nice even with all the dr stuff. I have some activity on both of my ovaries, but they can't tell how many follies will make it yet. I got the numbing cream from the dr today, too (had to get the prescription filled). It isn't like band-aids--it is just a cream and you put it on thickly and cover it for an hour. Should be messy! The dr said I will probably have the iui this weekend or possibly Monday. I liked the other RE. He was pretty intense, but the office is smaller and I liked the nurse. The RE works with a big group of drs, but they each have their own practices. I got an info package on ivf. I have to read through it all tonight. When I was talking to the new RE, his phone kept ringing, and he said (sort of loudly), "I don't know what all this foolishness is!!" Dh and I just looked at each other. On the flip side of that, he seems really anal, and I think that is a good thing in a RE. Also, only he and his nurse do the blood draws. She has worked in infertility for 15 years, so I assume they must be good at that (you know how I hate the needles:)). So, I may be joining you with ivf!! July will get here before you know it!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 26, 2006, 17:54

Answer: Wow, I can't believe how time flies sometimes. You are almost ready for your IUI???? That's amazing. Hope the numbing cream works for you!!! I saw the gyno today, and she said everything "feels" right.....no rigidity or noticeable fibroids, etc.... The RE will do my ultrasounds. Five more days until we see him. Gonna go eat dinner. GROW follies....GROW!!!!!

Name: Becca | Date: April 27, 2006, 9:50

Answer: Hi Ladies. Sorry to butt into your thread, but I have a question, and I was hoping you could help since you have experience with clomid. This is my first month on 50 mg of clomid. I am 17 dpo (cd 33) and I still don't have AF. I normally have a 14 day lp. I tested at 12 dpo and got a bfn. I've heard that Clomid can make your LP longer, but how much longer? I would think not more than a couple of days, right? Does anyone know or have any experience with this? I haven't tested again because I'm too scared to get another bfn. What do you all think? Could it just be the clomid that is making my lp so much longer?

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 27, 2006, 11:21

Answer: Tracy, I had an u/s this morning. I have one 14mm follie and an 11 on my right. He said there was one on my left, but he never said the size and I forgot to ask (assume it was small). I only have to take 150 Follistim tonight (plus the Lupron)--no Menopur--yea! I am going to be out of town for work from this afternoon until tomorrow afternoon (next u/s on Saturday morning). Any plans for you?? Becca, it could be the clomid or you could be pg. Just take the test and find out. 12dpo is very early, so you can't depend on a BFN from that day. The hcg could very well have been too low for the hpt to detect. Let us know what your results are!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 27, 2006, 13:44

Answer: Becca, my cycle went from 28 days to 31 the first month I did clomid, the second month I got AF on exactly day 28 (low progesterone that month), and my third cycle AF started on cd33. The two months that AF started later, I had really high progesterone levels. Did your doctor take a day 21 blood test to check your progesterone? If not, make sure you at least get that done next cycle if you have to take clomid again. Ann, great news about the follicles! I have a party I am going to on Saturday night. Agood friend of ours got married on the fly, so is throwing a party to celebrate. Other than that, I am just working a couple hours, and working out. I am so addicted to exercise now. I sleep better, feel better, and look better. I feel strong now. Have you noticed any side effects from all those shots yet? Just checkin'. Any emotional breakdowns??? Tiredness?? Anything? Have a great day. And pop in anytime Becca, you are always welcome!

Name: Becca | Date: April 28, 2006, 10:13

Answer: Thanks so much for the welcome, tracy! I am really at a loss. I don't know what is going on. My cycles are not always regular. They can range anywhere from 27-35 days, but for the last 3 months I have been 28 days exactly. This was my first month on Clomid. The dr said it would regulate my cycle and boost my chances of getting pg. I had my usual pre-O spotting on cd 14, and then intense abdominal discomfort on cd 16 and then the pain was 100% gone on cd 17, which leads me to think that I O'd on cd 16. The clomid made me really dry during my fertile time, but a about 2 dpo, I started to get a ton of that creamy cm, and it hasn't gone away yet. I am 18 dpo today, with still no sign of AF. I've had some mild cramping over the past few days, but not much to speak of. My bbs are only slightly tender which is unusual for me because they are usually very very sore for a few days before AF comes. I don't know why AF wouldn't come unless I was pg or didn't O. I did another hpt this morning and it was bfn, and with all that intense pain, I can't imagine that I didn't O, but I guess it's possible. But my dr told me that since I was already Oing on my own, the clomid would just increase the chances of having better eggs. I never imagined that it would actually stop me from Oing. I have a call into my dr, and I'm waiting for him to call me back, but any thoughts would be appreciated. No, I haven't had any bloodwork done to make check my progesterone levels. My insurance doesn't cover any type of fertility treatment, so I can't see a specialist, and I don't think my dr monitors the clomid use that closely. I guess I'll have to ask him to. Thanks again!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 28, 2006, 11:07

Answer: Becca, my insurance doesn't cover any type of infertility either, that is why I was seeing an OB for the clomid and stuff. Is it an OB who prescribed the clomid? I was covered for the day21 progesterone test. It's just a simple blood draw. So I would have that done 7dpo ( usually on cd23) and then go into the doc one week later to find out the results and get my prescription for the next cycle if needed. I would definitely ask your doctor about having that done. That shows if and how well you ovulated. As far as your BFN goes, see if the doctor has an opinion or can do a blood test. OR wait a few more days to see if AF shows. I know that's not very helpful advice, sorry. I would definitely recommend the blood test to check for pregnancy though at this point. Good luck, and let me know what the doc says.

Name: Becca | Date: April 28, 2006, 11:13

Answer: Thanks Tracy. The doc just called me back and he wants to do a blood test this afternoon. I'll let you know the results!!! Thanks for your help and your support. It is so helpful to have people who have people with experience with clomid giving you advice. There is only so much dh know, ya know??? Thanks again!!!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 29, 2006, 10:15

Answer: Becca, any word from the test??? Best wishes to you...... Ann, how are you??? Did you get the IUI?

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 29, 2006, 14:23

Answer: Tracy, no I don't have any side effects, except for the puffy bloated tummy. Like I said, I am very unemotional in general, though. I had another u/s this morning, and something happened that has never happened to me before. My dominant follie shrunk or went away. This is actually good news, because that one likely would have made me trigger when I had only one or two mature follies. Now, I have 4 coming in on my right and 2 on my left. They are all slightly below 12mm, so I don't know how many will make it. I have to take more Menopur tonight and tomorrow night (SO not looking forward to that). The RE thinks I will trigger now on Wednesday. I am hoping for Thursday, so I can have iui on Saturday. Becca, good luck with your situation. I've talked to lots of people that had their af a week or so late when taking clomid. Let us know what you find out.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 29, 2006, 14:26

Answer: Tracy, I forgot to say to have fun at your party tonight! I have another work dinner this evening. It is at a new restaurant, and they are always nice to try for free, but I could use some vegging out after just getting back in town.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 29, 2006, 15:33

Answer: Isn't it funny how nature works sometimes? Well, it is good news that it disappeared and hopefully set you up for a good ovulation. I am dying to sneak a cookie right now, but DH would kill me and I can't do it quietly enough for him not to hear me cracking open the container!!!! He leaves all these tempting snacks around all the time and it drives me nuts. Usually it's Skittles or chocolate chip cookies! That bastard!!! Anyway, I wish I weren't so emotional, but I am, and that's why I ask how you are doing emotionally. When I was on clomid the second and third months, I was a wreck. I have two friends on another thread that are doing injectibles right now, and one has been emotional and the other has not. Go figure. Enjoy your dinner and get some couch time this weekend. I just had a short nap and it was great!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 29, 2006, 15:43

Answer: Hi Tracy, glad your weekend is going well. Choc chip cookies are my FAVORITE. I make them at least a couple times/month. Tell dh to hide everything from you and to hide well!! I went to acupuncture today and I had a really bad headache when I got there (headache from allergies and I have not been taking my usual meds). He put some needles in the back of my neck and it is almost gone now. So cool! That is too bad that your other friend is having side effects from the meds. Hopefully they will go away once the injections stop. I think I am going to take a nap soon. I had to get up at 6:30 this morning to go to the RE, so I haven't gotten to sleep in!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 29, 2006, 16:12

Answer: We definitely have a lot in common. I laid down because I have been having some headaches from of all things, allergies. I quit taking all of my allergy stuff in order to conceive, but end up having to take immitrex once the headache starts turning into a migraine, so I don't know what's worse......Immitrex or allergy meds. I'm stuck here in the tropics with allergies! Get some rest!

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 30, 2006, 10:37

Answer: Hi Tracy. I did take a nap, but I still had that "allergy" feeling when I got up. I am sure you know what I mean. I do think the acupuncture is helping, because even though I feel bad, I haven't take any meds. My allergies are usually so bad that I absolutely have to take something for them. I need to go clean our pool today, but I am hesitant to go outside! How are you doing?

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 30, 2006, 16:52

Answer: I wish I could do acupuncture, but right now our extra cash is going for me to see a personal trainer, which incidentally, has helped a lot. The trainer is a nutritionist, so I cleaned up my diet and get fewer headaches as a result from that. I have a lot of food sensitivities, like I am flat out allergic to dairy, can't handle any preservatives and artificial ingredients, can't eat corn......I could go on. I shop at the Whole Foods over here and it is awesome. Anyway, so with that going on, plus the out of pocket RE expenses, acupuncture is not something we can splurge on right now. DH's business grows every day, so soon watching the bank account won't be an issue, but for now........we watch what we spend. Having IVF looming doesn't seem to help though either. We have the money for one try, if we have to do another one, I don't know where the money would come from. Did you clean the pool?? I had such a horrible dream this morning that woke me up too early, so I just woke up from a nap. That dream was so real that when I woke up I was crying in my sleep. I can't explain it; it sounded silly when I told DH. He just smiled and hugged me and said how sensitive I am. Then he made the comment that maybe I should see a therapist! lol....he was just kidding.

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 30, 2006, 18:16

Answer: Do you remember what you were dreaming? That is horrible you have reactions to dairy. I could not give that up! I love cheese and mile (and of course ice cream). I cleaned the pool, but it isn't clean. Our pool cleaner needs new "feet" so it doesn't move around like it should. Dh is supposed to be taking care of the feet--will see how long that takes...I know what you mean about money and business growing. We are trying not to spend too much extra, but here I am looking at New Orleans hotels all day today. I have to go to dh's family reunion in May and plan to stop in NO on the way over. Since we are driving (dss going also), it won't be too much of an expense to stop. I need some fun time to balance out the reunion.:) Do you guys have any upcoming trips?

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 30, 2006, 20:15

Answer: Let me tell you, it wasn't easy giving up dairy, but I did it like 5 years ago, and it changed my life. Where is the reunion being held? New Orleans could use the business, I'm sure, and you could use the R&R. I remember the dream vividly and have been trying off and on today to decipher it using different interpretation websites. I'll let you know what I discover when I'm done. My only upcoming trip is going to be to Cleveland to see my little sister. She had back surgery a year ago and just had to have surgery on her foot, so I need to go spend time with her while her husband is away. He is a pilot, so he is gone for days at a time, and right now, she can barely do anything and must get lonely. I feel so bad for her. She was a pilot also, had been since she was 19, then went to boot camp to be a fighter pilot for the marine corps and ruptured a disc in her back. She can no longer work and is only 26 years old. I love her to pieces and wish she could heal from it, but is in pain all the time. I'm at a loss. Well, have a great day at work tomorrow and keep me posted on those follies. When do you go for another check?

Name: Ann1 | Date: April 30, 2006, 22:34

Answer: That is really sad about your sister. I hope they can do surgery at some point to help her out. I bet she will love having you there to visit. The reunion is in Mississippi...I have a very difficult time fitting in there...NO is great, though. It is the most European-feeling city I have visited in the US. I love it there. Everyone is so into food--the restaurants are amazing. My next u/s is tomorrow. I really hope I don't have to do any more Menopur after tonight. Last night hurt like hell as usual. I am getting ready to do my shots for tonight. I have to do them at least an hour or so before bed time, because I get so stressed out and shaky that I can't fall asleep. Do you have your RE appt tomorrow? Have a good night!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 30, 2006, 23:23

Answer: What part od Mississipi? My dad lives in Hattiesberg (sp?). I can see what you mean about fitting in since I have been there many times, and know what it's like. My dad married some hag from there and we have not spoken for about 13 years because of her. We owuld go to New Orleans too whenever I visited them. Hope your ultrasound goes well, let me know what they see. My appointment is Tuesday afternoon at the RE. I expect AF anywhere from Wednesday through Friday. I have no idea how long my cycle will be this time since I ovulated early. I think Wednesday I'll see AF, but we shall see. Have a good day. Talk to you soon.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: April 30, 2006, 23:24

Answer: WOW, lots of spelling errors....sorry!

Name: Ann1 | Date: May 1, 2006, 10:29

Answer: It is northeast Mississippi by Tupelo. Middle of nowhere. That is great you get to see the RE before your cycle starts (if it starts). Then you can get the plan in place!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: May 2, 2006, 12:24

Answer: Appointment is in a couple hours. I have that abdominal discomfort one gets right before the cramps begin, so AF will show within the next two days. I know her all too well. Feeling scared about the IVF route, but glad that maybe this will all be over by the end of the year, and possibly by the end of summer. Just found out today that my mom is engaged now to a man she has only been dating for about a month!!!!! Mind you, this is a man that she never outright admitted to us that she was even dating!!! I am so pissed at her, you have no idea. I don't even want to talk to her right now. She is a 60 year old, elegant, educated woman from Finland who is a sucker for sweet talking men. What crap. I am soooooo furious. I had to find out she was engaged through my sister because my mother wasn't going to tell me obviously. I could care less if she gets engaged to someone, but not after only a month of dating. How stupid. Sorry, but I just learned of all this within the last half hour and needed to vent.

Name: Ann1 | Date: May 2, 2006, 14:56

Answer: Oh my gosh about your mom!! I have an aunt like that. I think women get terrified of being alone at that age, especially considering all the men that age try to date 40-year-olds!! The u/s went well. I have 2 14mm follies on the right and 1 14mm on the left and one 11mm on the left. So I will have at least 3 and maybe 4 by iui time. The dr still thinks he will trigger me on Wednesday and have iui on Friday. I may try to take the day off, but I am not sure if that will be possible. I weighed myself last night, and I haven't gained, but my pants are tight in the waist. He said my ovaries are "distended." I am wearing some pants today that I bought one size to big (so they would be long enough), and they are even tight! How long did you experience this with clomid?? I hope it goes away soon after I start the meds. I don't have to do any more Menopur--yea!!! My next u/s is Wednesday. Good luck at the dr! Let me know what he says.

Name: Tracy88 | Date: May 2, 2006, 19:33

Answer: Ann, to be honest, I stayed bloated for tooooo loooonnnggg!!!!! I don't know why, but my body was not going to let go of the weigh and bloat until I started to do something about it. I have been working out for almost two months now and only within the last coule of weeks, have I been able to fit back into some of my old pants. I however gained 12 pounds, whereas you are just bloated with no weight gain. You are better off than I was and you will probably start to feel less bloated within a couple of weeks. I think I will be starting injectibles a few days after AF starts. AF should arrive tomorrow. The doctor believes that I am healthy and have no PCOS or endo, so doing the shots and trigger would ensure that I ovulate and hopefully get PG. He thinks since we are both considered healthy, that IVF should be an option we look at only after trying injectibles at least twice. I will probably do the injectibles this cycle, get a laparoscopy done next cycle (if covered by insurance), and do one more cycle of injectibles. Anyway, I am psyched to hear about your follies!!!! Babies here we come!!!!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: May 2, 2006, 19:36

Answer: Oh yeah, and about my mom.....isn't that just retarded??? You have no idea how shocked I am right now. I am going to test her to see how long it takes her to tell me that she is engaged.

Name: Ann1 | Date: May 2, 2006, 20:34

Answer: I am glad you have a plan in place! I think it is good that you are trying injectibles before you move on to ivf. It is so much less invasive. Do you have any apprehension about the shots? The fact that your mom hasn't told you anything is extra crazy!! You can just lay in wait and bust her when she finally spills.:) Do you know what meds you will be on? Your new dr will monitor you with u/s, right? I feel so fat and disgusting right now. I can't wait to leave the office. Now that we are both done with clomid, I vote that we retitle the thread. Also, I will be in Chicago for a week May 12-19 for work, and I like to read your updates on my Blackberry. This thread just became too long last week for me to see it on there!

Name: Tracy88 | Date: May 2, 2006, 20:54

Answer: You go ahead and rename the thread and I will be there like a bear. I will be monitored very closely. I am unsure of what meds I will be on. I didn't even ask. I had my head clear up my ass today even though I went in with a ton of questions. I am going to start AF, so I was depressed while talking to him. I asked everything except what the meds would be though. BUT....I have faith that he knows what he is doing. Everyone in this area has gotten pg by him one way or another. When you are out of town, I will most likely be doing my IUI, so I will post even if you can't post back. Won't the last day of your current cycle fall after you come back from your trip? Trust me, I know how you feel about feeling fat and looking disgusting. I still feel gross every time I take my clothes off to take a shower, I just want to cry. As much as I work out and diet, I still have a ton of fat on my body if you can believe it. The irony is that I weigh 125lbs, but it is all fat!!!!! I am normally a petite, small boned chic, but I have an ass on me that won't quit. I hate it cuz to me, it's not a sexy ass, it's a fat ass! Grossed out yet? I am working so hard at putting muscle on my body......I just have to keep plugging along I guess. You will shed that water weight quickly, especially since you have not put weight on....it's just fluff. I am not looking forward to more fluff. I had about as much as I can handle. Well, very thirsty....gonna go downstairs and suck down some orange juice.

Name: Ann1 | Date: May 3, 2006, 10:27

Answer: I am going to change the thread to "After Clomid Fails" since we are both to that phase now.

Name: SWags | Date: May 9, 2006, 8:11

Answer: Hi Lauren. Last month was my 1st on Clomid and when we didn't get our period by day 29 (I'm around a 27), we were very excited, but my temp finally dropped and it came on day 31. Mentioned this to my fertility doc and he said that Clomid often causes periods to come on in the 30's. I know that's a bit of a downer, but thought you shold know. I hope your temp stays up and you are preggers!

Name: kenziemommy | Date: September 13, 2007, 9:35

Answer: I would think it was the Clomid. My 1st month of using it I missed my period, took a hpt and it was positive. Ecstatic went to the doctor and I had a very early miscarraige a week later. I'm still on Clomid and again my period is late this month and my breast are extremely tender but i'm scared to take a hpt, i want so bad for the result to be positive... Good luck w/ you ::baby dust::